[Coco] Gene, heads up again, I cannot access your site.

gene heskett gheskett at wdtv.com
Mon Aug 22 08:39:10 EDT 2011


On Monday, August 22, 2011 08:14:58 AM Stephen H. Fischer did opine:

> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "gene heskett" <gheskett at wdtv.com>
> To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Sunday, August 21, 2011 9:20 PM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Gene, heads up again, I cannot access your site.
> 
> > On Monday, August 22, 2011 12:04:33 AM Stephen H. Fischer did opine:
> >> Hi,
> >> 
> >> Sorry Gene, no-go.
> > 
> > Humm.  So it works for me, and still does.  But no when your machine
> > wants to access it because its your machine that would need that new
> > entry in its
> > hosts file.  That would work, but asking 300 people to edit their
> > hosts file is asking an awful lot to those not fam with the *nix way
> > of doing things.
> 
> I have seen the hosts file on my computer cause strange problems, I do
> not wish to fool with it.
> 
> > Ok, does anyone know if I could set an environment var to that
> > address, and
> > then us it in the pages scripts, replacing the hard coded
> > gene.homelinux.net string in the scripts with the env var's name?
> > 
> >> Perhaps you can get someone to mirror your site or offer to host it
> >> allowing you to control content.
> > 
> > googlebot crawls in daily if not more often, but I expect it is having
> > trouble with that ip resolution.
> > 
> >> I have noted several persons that have offered to do this for other
> >> persons on the CoCo list.
> >> 
> >> Why fight an ISP that says don't do that anyway.
> > 
> > Principle.  According to the common carrier rules & regs, they cannot
> > block
> > anything, even spam is a grey area.  But the blockage of incoming port
> > 80, forcing one to put their web pages on the ISP's web server where
> > they can be wrapped up in visual spam, is so universal the Friendly
> > Candy Company ignores it, knowing full well that visual spam
> > translates to a lower cost for a monthly account.  Since port 80 is
> > blocked, and port 85 isn't reserved for a service that I have been
> > able to find a reference to, I used
> > it to get around the port 80 block.  I could just as easily have used
> > the https port, 8080 I guess, and AFAIK they do not block that.  That
> > however is not the instant problem.
> > 
> > BTW, I assume the text portion of the page did load ok, but since all
> > the links are broken, no images.  Correct?  Please check that as I'll
> > possibly need that tomorrow while I yell at them about their dns
> > servers.
> 
> I got something different this time, I tried
> http://204.111.25.156:85/gene/ and did get the words but no picture,
> just alt text.

Actually that is the same text, but with all the picture etc links broken, 
that file is all you get.
 
> 
> BUT!!!!
> 
> http://gene.homelinux.net:85/gene/Genes-os9-stf
> 
> gives "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".
 
Because that resolves to a different ip.

> I thought that I clicked on http://204.111.25.156:85/gene/ before and
> got "Internet Explorer cannot display the webpage".

Try < http://204.111.25.156:85/gene/Genes-os9-stf/>
I get the dir listing, and clicking on a readme works, as does clicking on 
the name of one of the archived files, up pops a requester asking what to 
do with it.  So all the stuff except the pix are available.  Nothing new 
there in recent weeks though, I have been busy with other projects 
involving quite a bit of poplar, and a BP gunstock.  Currently waiting on 
new drivers for the milling machine.

Humm, since I have that in my hosts file, it works for me even for the pix.

Just add a line at the bottom of the files ipv4 (if it has both ipv4 and 
ipv6) sections. No real magic about it. Here is mine:
[root at coyote etc]# cat hosts
# generated by drakconnect
127.0.0.1 localhost.localdomain localhost
192.168.71.1 router.coyote.den router
192.168.71.3 coyote.coyote.den coyote
192.168.71.4 shop.coyote.den shop
192.168.71.20 router2.ap-in.shop router2
204.111.25.156  gene.homelinux.net  gene

The format is IPaddress FQDN AlIAS, where IP is self-explanatory, 
FQDN=Fully Qualified Domain Name, and a space delimited alias to it.

The second name on any given line is the shortcut 'alias', so you can 'ping 
router' or 'ping shop'.  ;-)

Unless you don't trust your editor or fingers.  ;-)  I never trust my 
fingers, but the editor is vim.

Cheers, gene
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