[Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

[Bob Devries]

When did the pull-down menus become *new*? They are there in V0.110.

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC


wait.. did you want the menus?  check the box if so.  the menus are
the "New GUI".

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> wrote:
> "Use New GUI" is NOT ticked. :(
>
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> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>
> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>
>
> Look in Miscellaneous, "Use New UI". The new UI is what provides the
> menus, probably not checked.
>
> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 
> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Aaron,
>>
>> When I start a MESS emulation (Coco3 NTSC), it starts up the Coco in
>> window.
>> I lose the mouse pointer, but ALT-TAB does bring that back, albeit 
>> leaving
>> an @ character on the coco screen :)
>>
>> In Default Game Properties, Controllers Tab, the option 'Enable mouse
>> input'
>> is unticked.
>> In 'controller mapping' the mouse device points to the Mouse.
>>
>> As per Robert Gault's suggestion, Sleep when possible and Multi-threaded
>> rendering are ticked.
>>
>> I get no menu bar in version 0.136B, but I do in Version 0.110. Is that
>> correct? Did they remove the menus in this version?
>>
>> Regards, Bob Devries
>>
>> --
>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 
>> one's
>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>
>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:49 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>
>>
>>> Besides not being able to use mouse or exit, does the emulator run,
>>> i.e. do you see a Coco?
>>>
>>> This sort of happens in a default configuration I think..Try ALT-Tab
>>> to switch away. The mouse problem can normally be solved by telling
>>> MESS not to use the mouse: if you're using MESSUI then go into
>>> properties for the system and under Controllers, uncheck "Enable mouse
>>> input". Also check that mouse is not selected for any of the inputs
>>> on the Controller Mapping page (other than Mouse device).
>>>
>>> Video problems can be worked out usually on the Display page. "Run in
>>> a window" and unchecking "Start out maximized" might make a
>>> difference. The various Videomode settings also might give better
>>> results (or worse).
>>>
>>> One of the best things about MESS is the huge number of options
>>> available, but this can also be a problem when you aren't familiar
>>> with what they do. I'd bet you can solve some or all of the issues
>>> you have by tweaking things.
>>>
>>> Good luck, let us know how it goes and maybe we can figure out any
>>> remaining issues.
>>> -Aaron
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Actually, it was me who can't run MESS on his laptop.
>>>>
>>>> I checked the settings you mentioned, Robert, but there's no 
>>>> difference.
>>>>
>>>> When I start the emulation, I lose my mouse pointer altogether, and 
>>>> MESS
>>>> does not respond to *any* Function-keys at all. The only way to quit 
>>>> the
>>>> emulations is the three finger slaute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).
>>>>
>>>> This laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315. It has an Intel Celeron 550
>>>> processor
>>>> @
>>>> 2GHz and 1GB memory, running WinXP SP2.
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of
>>>> one's
>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.
>>>>
>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gault"
>>>> <robert.gault at worldnet.att.net>
>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:27 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Wayne Campbell wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have been using MESS on my laptop because I can't get VCC to run on
>>>>>> it. The biggest problem I see with MESS is lack of information on how
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> configure it for a given system, when you know nothing about what
>>>>>> needs
>>>>>> to be set, or how.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> It makes my laptop run warm, and there is visible hesitation in other
>>>>>> apps, no matter what they are. I have looked through the
>>>>>> documentation,
>>>>>> and if you are experienced enough in all of the areas concerned to
>>>>>> understand it, you can configure it. Otherwise, you cannot. It would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> nice if someone could come up with a configuration tutorial that
>>>>>> walked
>>>>>> the novice through the process.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Wayne
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you gone through the on screen Help available with MESS? There 
>>>>> are
>>>>> specific instructions that ought to help with your laptop. Look at and
>>>>> try:
>>>>> sleep when possible, multi-thread rendering, thread priority.
>>>>> These are all adjustable and should reduce the amount of CPU time
>>>>> allocated to MESS.
>>>>>
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