[Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

[Bob Devries]

All I get is the actual coco screen. No menu bar, no pull-downs. I get the 
usual blue (on my laptop) window surround from Windows. This means I can't 
select devices etc. while running the emulation.

Regards, Bob Devries

--
Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of one's 
native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Wayne Campbell" <asa.rand at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 1:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC



>I don't know what is happening there, Bob. I installed 136. I'm not sure 

>which menus you are describing. The menubar and toolbar are both displayed 

>in the emulator window. The menu lists while running the emulator are 

>there. Checking Use newui doesn't seem to do anything on my laptop.

>

> Wayne

>

> ----- Original Message ----- 

> From: "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>

> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 6:02 PM

> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>

>

>> And... even with "use new UI" ticked, still no menus. :(

>>

>> --

>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 

>> one's native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>

>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- 

>> From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>

>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:38 PM

>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>

>>

>> wait.. did you want the menus?  check the box if so.  the menus are

>> the "New GUI".

>>

>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 

>> wrote:

>>> "Use New GUI" is NOT ticked. :(

>>>

>>> --

>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 

>>> one's

>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>>

>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>>

>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>

>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM

>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>>

>>>

>>> Look in Miscellaneous, "Use New UI". The new UI is what provides the

>>> menus, probably not checked.

>>>

>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Hi Aaron,

>>>>

>>>> When I start a MESS emulation (Coco3 NTSC), it starts up the Coco in

>>>> window.

>>>> I lose the mouse pointer, but ALT-TAB does bring that back, albeit 

>>>> leaving

>>>> an @ character on the coco screen :)

>>>>

>>>> In Default Game Properties, Controllers Tab, the option 'Enable mouse

>>>> input'

>>>> is unticked.

>>>> In 'controller mapping' the mouse device points to the Mouse.

>>>>

>>>> As per Robert Gault's suggestion, Sleep when possible and 

>>>> Multi-threaded

>>>> rendering are ticked.

>>>>

>>>> I get no menu bar in version 0.136B, but I do in Version 0.110. Is that

>>>> correct? Did they remove the menus in this version?

>>>>

>>>> Regards, Bob Devries

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 

>>>> one's

>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>>>

>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>

>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:49 AM

>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Besides not being able to use mouse or exit, does the emulator run,

>>>>> i.e. do you see a Coco?

>>>>>

>>>>> This sort of happens in a default configuration I think..Try ALT-Tab

>>>>> to switch away. The mouse problem can normally be solved by telling

>>>>> MESS not to use the mouse: if you're using MESSUI then go into

>>>>> properties for the system and under Controllers, uncheck "Enable mouse

>>>>> input". Also check that mouse is not selected for any of the inputs

>>>>> on the Controller Mapping page (other than Mouse device).

>>>>>

>>>>> Video problems can be worked out usually on the Display page. "Run in

>>>>> a window" and unchecking "Start out maximized" might make a

>>>>> difference. The various Videomode settings also might give better

>>>>> results (or worse).

>>>>>

>>>>> One of the best things about MESS is the huge number of options

>>>>> available, but this can also be a problem when you aren't familiar

>>>>> with what they do. I'd bet you can solve some or all of the issues

>>>>> you have by tweaking things.

>>>>>

>>>>> Good luck, let us know how it goes and maybe we can figure out any

>>>>> remaining issues.

>>>>> -Aaron

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com>

>>>>> wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Actually, it was me who can't run MESS on his laptop.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I checked the settings you mentioned, Robert, but there's no 

>>>>>> difference.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> When I start the emulation, I lose my mouse pointer altogether, and 

>>>>>> MESS

>>>>>> does not respond to *any* Function-keys at all. The only way to quit 

>>>>>> the

>>>>>> emulations is the three finger slaute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).

>>>>>>

>>>>>> This laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315. It has an Intel Celeron 550

>>>>>> processor

>>>>>> @

>>>>>> 2GHz and 1GB memory, running WinXP SP2.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> --

>>>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of

>>>>>> one's

>>>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>>>>>

>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gault"

>>>>>> <robert.gault at worldnet.att.net>

>>>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:27 PM

>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Wayne Campbell wrote:

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> I have been using MESS on my laptop because I can't get VCC to run 

>>>>>>>> on

>>>>>>>> it. The biggest problem I see with MESS is lack of information on 

>>>>>>>> how

>>>>>>>> to

>>>>>>>> configure it for a given system, when you know nothing about what

>>>>>>>> needs

>>>>>>>> to be set, or how.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> It makes my laptop run warm, and there is visible hesitation in 

>>>>>>>> other

>>>>>>>> apps, no matter what they are. I have looked through the

>>>>>>>> documentation,

>>>>>>>> and if you are experienced enough in all of the areas concerned to

>>>>>>>> understand it, you can configure it. Otherwise, you cannot. It 

>>>>>>>> would

>>>>>>>> be

>>>>>>>> nice if someone could come up with a configuration tutorial that

>>>>>>>> walked

>>>>>>>> the novice through the process.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>> Wayne

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>> Have you gone through the on screen Help available with MESS? There 

>>>>>>> are

>>>>>>> specific instructions that ought to help with your laptop. Look at 

>>>>>>> and

>>>>>>> try:

>>>>>>> sleep when possible, multi-thread rendering, thread priority.

>>>>>>> These are all adjustable and should reduce the amount of CPU time

>>>>>>> allocated to MESS.

>>>>>>>

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