[Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

[Bob Devries]

And... even with "use new UI" ticked, still no menus. :(

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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 12:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC


wait.. did you want the menus?  check the box if so.  the menus are
the "New GUI".

On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:15 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> wrote:

> "Use New GUI" is NOT ticked. :(

>

> --

> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of one's

> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>

> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>

> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 11:04 AM

> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>

>

> Look in Miscellaneous, "Use New UI". The new UI is what provides the

> menus, probably not checked.

>

> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 7:00 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com> 

> wrote:

>>

>> Hi Aaron,

>>

>> When I start a MESS emulation (Coco3 NTSC), it starts up the Coco in

>> window.

>> I lose the mouse pointer, but ALT-TAB does bring that back, albeit 

>> leaving

>> an @ character on the coco screen :)

>>

>> In Default Game Properties, Controllers Tab, the option 'Enable mouse

>> input'

>> is unticked.

>> In 'controller mapping' the mouse device points to the Mouse.

>>

>> As per Robert Gault's suggestion, Sleep when possible and Multi-threaded

>> rendering are ticked.

>>

>> I get no menu bar in version 0.136B, but I do in Version 0.110. Is that

>> correct? Did they remove the menus in this version?

>>

>> Regards, Bob Devries

>>

>> --

>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of 

>> one's

>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>

>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>

>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Aaron Wolfe" <aawolfe at gmail.com>

>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>> Sent: Thursday, January 21, 2010 10:49 AM

>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>

>>

>>> Besides not being able to use mouse or exit, does the emulator run,

>>> i.e. do you see a Coco?

>>>

>>> This sort of happens in a default configuration I think..Try ALT-Tab

>>> to switch away. The mouse problem can normally be solved by telling

>>> MESS not to use the mouse: if you're using MESSUI then go into

>>> properties for the system and under Controllers, uncheck "Enable mouse

>>> input". Also check that mouse is not selected for any of the inputs

>>> on the Controller Mapping page (other than Mouse device).

>>>

>>> Video problems can be worked out usually on the Display page. "Run in

>>> a window" and unchecking "Start out maximized" might make a

>>> difference. The various Videomode settings also might give better

>>> results (or worse).

>>>

>>> One of the best things about MESS is the huge number of options

>>> available, but this can also be a problem when you aren't familiar

>>> with what they do. I'd bet you can solve some or all of the issues

>>> you have by tweaking things.

>>>

>>> Good luck, let us know how it goes and maybe we can figure out any

>>> remaining issues.

>>> -Aaron

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>>

>>> On Wed, Jan 20, 2010 at 3:25 PM, Bob Devries <devries.bob at gmail.com>

>>> wrote:

>>>>

>>>> Actually, it was me who can't run MESS on his laptop.

>>>>

>>>> I checked the settings you mentioned, Robert, but there's no 

>>>> difference.

>>>>

>>>> When I start the emulation, I lose my mouse pointer altogether, and 

>>>> MESS

>>>> does not respond to *any* Function-keys at all. The only way to quit 

>>>> the

>>>> emulations is the three finger slaute (CTRL-ALT-DEL).

>>>>

>>>> This laptop is an Acer Aspire 5315. It has an Intel Celeron 550

>>>> processor

>>>> @

>>>> 2GHz and 1GB memory, running WinXP SP2.

>>>>

>>>> --

>>>> Besides a mathematical inclination, an exceptionally good mastery of

>>>> one's

>>>> native tongue is the most vital asset of a competent programmer.

>>>>

>>>> Edsger W.Dijkstra, 18 June 1975

>>>>

>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Gault"

>>>> <robert.gault at worldnet.att.net>

>>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>> Sent: Wednesday, January 20, 2010 9:27 PM

>>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] Hires mouse emulation in VCC

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>> Wayne Campbell wrote:

>>>>>>

>>>>>> I have been using MESS on my laptop because I can't get VCC to run on

>>>>>> it. The biggest problem I see with MESS is lack of information on how

>>>>>> to

>>>>>> configure it for a given system, when you know nothing about what

>>>>>> needs

>>>>>> to be set, or how.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> It makes my laptop run warm, and there is visible hesitation in other

>>>>>> apps, no matter what they are. I have looked through the

>>>>>> documentation,

>>>>>> and if you are experienced enough in all of the areas concerned to

>>>>>> understand it, you can configure it. Otherwise, you cannot. It would

>>>>>> be

>>>>>> nice if someone could come up with a configuration tutorial that

>>>>>> walked

>>>>>> the novice through the process.

>>>>>>

>>>>>> Wayne

>>>>>

>>>>> Have you gone through the on screen Help available with MESS? There 

>>>>> are

>>>>> specific instructions that ought to help with your laptop. Look at and

>>>>> try:

>>>>> sleep when possible, multi-thread rendering, thread priority.

>>>>> These are all adjustable and should reduce the amount of CPU time

>>>>> allocated to MESS.

>>>>>

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