[Coco] APL, BASIC, and Eric S Raymond was Re: webserver
goosey at virgo.sdc.org
Sun Jan 3 06:30:19 EST 2010
On Sun, Jan 03, 2010 at 04:10:25AM +0000, wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
> APL is my own favorite language, but everybody knows it's write-only code.
Have you poked at the IAPL interpeter under OS-9? I've played with it
a little, seems to work OK. I'm not sure that sacrificing speed for
universal workspace compatibility was a wise design decision, but it
probably made sense at the time (IAPL stores all variables in little
According to what I've read, APL does strict right-to-left precedence,
which I find strange for a language so closely based on a mathmatical
I think it's possible to write readable APL.
> > Although I have to admit, the Klingon FORTH+LISP interpeter makes me
> > raise an eyebrow... ;-) (see http://catb.org/retro/ )
> Klingons don't raise an eyebrow, only Vulcan/Human hybrids do.
AFAIK there aren't any Klingons in my family. I'd look terrible in
> Reading down that list, I still, after knowing him for twenty years,
> have no bloody idea what is the source of Eric's contempt for
I can understand some of it... But blaming BASIC for the horrible code
written in it is like blaming English for the existance of
I'm a bit of a fanboy for Eric Raymond, never met him. The Yellow
book is one of the most important books on my shelf, and it is well
thumbed and falling apart. :-)
When I get a few OS-9 projects finished, I wanna take a stab at
porting BWBASIC to OS-9. As old-school BASICs go it's fairly decent.
If it can be compiled under CP/M, we should be able to compile it
under OS-9. Unless, you know, somebody beats me to it. ;-)
Let me think, other languages off Eric's page.... I had FOCAL almost
compiled (wants floor()), but I'm not sure it actually worked
correctly. That got lost in a hard drive crash. :-( The BCPL I-Code
engine compiled but didn't work right (not an endian issue, it works
fine on my 68010 UNIX box). The others want ANSI C and/or
tool-libraries (LEX, YACC) we don't have under 6x09 OS-9. ansifront
may fix some of the issues I had.
Willard Goosey goosey at sdc.org
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