[Coco] OT: windows telnet, was Play with NitrOS-9 over the Internet

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On Monday 28 December 2009 02:02:24 Aaron Wolfe wrote:
> I cannot fathom what lead to the decision not to include the telnet
> client in new versions of Windows.  Were they trying to prevent people
> from using telnet?  Probably not, since the included Hyperterm
> application does do telnet.  Were they trying to save 71k of space?
> Hard to believe when a default install takes hundreds of megabytes.
> It seems to be nothing but an inconvenience from every angle I come up
> with.
> 
> On Mon, Dec 28, 2009 at 1:52 AM, Lothan <lothan at newsguy.com> wrote:
> > It's on the install disc, but it isn't installed by default.
> >
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> > From: "Tony Cappellini" <cappy2112 at gmail.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 28, 2009 1:29 AM
> > To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] Play with NitrOS-9 over the Internet
> >
> >> Message: 7
> >> Date: Sun, 27 Dec 2009 14:36:53 -0600
> >> From: Sean <badfrog at gmail.com>
> >> Subject: Re: [Coco] Play with NitrOS-9 over the Internet
> >> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
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> >>>> Actually 'telnet aes.dyndns.org 6809' is correct command for the
> >>>> Windows
> >>
> >> command line.
> >> Maybe for Windows XP, but it is not present on Windows 7.
> >>
> >> Telnet is the most insecure piece of software on the plant. You may as
> >> well
> >> email everyone you know your passwords.
> >> My shell account was hacked because of telnet. This is why I've been an
> >> ssh
> >> convert ever since. It' snot perfect, but it's more work to get at your
> >> password- if it all.
> >>
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Just a guess on my part, Telnet is such an insecure protocol, that I wonder if 
Microsoft and others wish it would just go away. MS especically since they are 
such a favorite target for the bad guys as it is. I know telnet is a pretty 
good tool to use to remotely control servers, but ONLY from behind a good 
firewall and AV software.