[Coco] CoCoList and the Web, was Re: CoCoList Survey on email but no web browser access CoCo users .

[wdg3rd at comcast.net]

----- "Roger Merchberger" <zmerch-coco at 30below.com> wrote:

> Rumor has it that Gene Heskett may have mentioned these words:
> >[[ snipppage of mail handling "features" ]]
> 
> Offtopically, that's why I like Linux; you want something small &
> lite, 
> take a month & compile it yourself (like your recipes); want something
> easy 
> & slow, download the latest Ubuntu (which, BTW, is out today... 9.04,
> woohoo!) stick in the disk, reboot & it's easier than winders.

I'll wait a week, until the pipes aren't so clogged.

> Close to what you said, my Eudora 5.0 install still has email in it
> from 
> '98, and a list of filters as long as my arm (admittedly, prolly 1/2
> of 
> which are now unused.) That said, I really do need to do something
> similar 
> to your setup & have the server already; after neglecting my email for
> far 
> too long (having 3 days off in as many months) even at T1 speeds 
> downloading 20K messages took *way too long* - and I would like to
> speed 
> that up to 100Mbit or more. ;-)

I've got (currently inaccessible) archives of several mailing lists back to the early '90s.  I forget when I got here, but well before the Princeton list collapsed from spam.  Just gotta reinstall the drives and spin them up.

> >That doesn't describe anything I'd call convenience compared to
> reading this
> >mailing list already sorted into the 'coco' folder.  Using
> convenience and
> >webmail in the same sentence is an oxymoron comparable to military
> >intelligence.
> 
> Hey, many of us on the list are/were in the military, and many of us
> are 
> intelligent. (OK, maybe the _decision_ to join may not have been...
> I'll 
> leave that up as an exercise to the reader. ;-)

I'm a vet too, and I don't quibble with the concept.  I spent three years (out of four -- the first year was OK, half a year being paid to sit in classrooms [most of Basic was classrooms] and then learning to fix planes in person, but after that there were no challenges) in the USAF bored to tears because my job required an IQ of two (small) digits.  So I spent a lot of time messing with the minds of my "superiors".  (Details available on request).

> 
> As far as oxymorons, I much prefer "Microsoft Works" as that package
> makes 
> M$ Office look spectacular! ;-)
> 
> =-=-=
> 
> Ontopically, I would have to say that as my current mail setup is not
> 
> anywhere close to mobile (the aforementioned reworking would change
> that 
> markedly) I would probably not "dropped off the map" so completely if
> there 
> were a web based forum... but when I do have spare time, my
> participation 
> would not return to what I would consider "acceptable" levels for the
> 
> community.

My access to this list is quite mobile.  Most of the time I use Comcast's webmail, as I can get to that from home or work (or pretty much anywhere), then I let T-bird suck it into the house machine later.

> If I had the choice of permanent half-hearted participation or the 
> occasional "here there be dragons, drop off the edge of the planet"
> hiatus, 
> I'll take the latter, TYVM. Counting the number of individuals who
> would 
> prefer the dragons ate me, I'll also leave as an exercise for others
> to 
> ponder. ;-)
> 
> >Simply said, this mailing list Just Works(TM).
> 
> I agree. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.

It ain't broke.

There are a few Webforums (that's supposed to be spelled Webfora, if there are any Latin language students out there) that I participate on.  I prefer email.  The SMF setup is almost tolerable, as it lets you skip what you've already read.  <http://forum.bigheadpress.com> and <http://forum.freestateproject.org> are built on the Simple Machines Forum software.  Unfortunately, <http://goodeats.dyndns.org> and <http://www.repairmanjack.com/forum> aren't.  Take a week off and it's a bitch to find anything.  (You can find threads you've been in, but you can't figure where into a 1000+ message thread you were reading the last visit unless you had pen and paper at the time).
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Ward Griffiths        wdg3rd at comcast.net