[Coco] DriveWire
Joel Ewy
jcewy at swbell.net
Mon Apr 13 11:37:05 EDT 2009
Gene Heskett wrote:
> On Monday 13 April 2009, wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> ----- "Bruce W. Calkins" <brucewcalkins at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> From: "Bruce W. Calkins" <brucewcalkins at charter.net>
>>> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
>>> Sent: Sunday, April 12, 2009 11:14:32 PM GMT -05:00 US/Canada Eastern
>>> Subject: Re: [Coco] DriveWire
>>>
>>>
>>>> Just show me an example of somebody
>>>> (not a Microsoft employee or contractor)
>>>> installing a supported Microsoft OS on
>>>> bare metal in this millennium.
>>>>
>>> Been there, done that. 98SE & XP Pro 64 bit.
>>>
>>>
>>>> I can do it with any of a dozen
>>>> Linux distros.
>>>>
>>> In most cases LINUX is easier, but I have one unit that runs a "test"
>>> of XP
>>> Pro quite well, but chokes on LINUX.
>>>
>> Tell me the MOBO models. I can't think of one that will "test" XP and won't
>> run Linux. Does it "run" XP? And while 98SE isn't quite "this
>> millennium", I'd like some details as to what kind of bare metal you
>> inflicted that onto. As in a decade and a half, I haven't found a system
>> (386 & up) that wouldn't boot Linux if it booted Windows 3.11 or later.
>>
>
> IIRC linux won't run on a 386-SX, or at least I couldn't get it to fly many
> years ago. W-95 ran on it ok. Glacial speeds though...
>
>
Current kernels won't, but it certainly did in the past. My first Linux
installation was a '386-SX/40 with 16M of RAM and a couple 40M MFM
drives (Well, one of them only formatted to about 32M after I opened the
case and dug out a broken-off R/W head [I know, don't EVER do this -- it
was ruined anyway, and worked fine for me until I replaced them with a
100M IDE drive. Just used it for swap, anyway...]). It was SLS (Soft
Landing Systems, which I believe was a proto-Slackware...) downloaded
from Delphi at 14.4 in the form of 10 1.44M floppy images. Must have
been somewhere around 1993 or 1994, I guess. Still have the disks.
So yes, it did at one time run on a '386-SX. The main problem with
those systems at the time was the 16MB RAM limitation, though it seemed
like a pretty fair amount of memory back then. It even ran X, though
there weren't many interesting X applications to use at that point. The
hard drives were probably the real bottleneck on that system.
JCE
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