[Coco] FOR REAL! Program listings on the list(original message topic with my few tangents)

[George Ramsower]

(prepend to the following)

 This post keeps growing as I come back from my coco and add more. So if you 
are A.D.D. then this may not be for you... :)

...................

  This is a fun group to be part of, even when it gets heated discussions 
going.

  It just amazes me that there are plenty of great folks here that know a 
KaZillion more stuff about everything than I do with a Coco. I sometimes 
feel like a beginner.

  The list has some rules that may or may not be within reality when it 
comes to listings.

  In asembly, a small, 1k(after assembly) ml program listing could be 
overwhelming... I would think

  A 4k Basic program is just that.... 4k. At least when it's saved in ASCI 
as does B09.

  My largest routine so far is the finished numeric routine that actually 
does all the engraving for numbers.
  It runs the stepper motors, does all the math and is a stand alone 
routine.
  It takes three pages on my Oki printer.

   Oh! OKI manual > View Online did work!(You know who you are). It's a pain 
to get that info onto PAPER. It's the only thing I trust less than engraving 
in Stainless Steel.

 By the way, since I've repositioned the ink pad and wick, it get darker 
everyday. No new ink!

 Not bad for a (at least) ten year old ribbon cassette left in the printer, 
both not in a box, just collecting dust.

 Movin' right along now....

I think it would be nice if when we change the subject on a topic, we should 
do as we USED to do and append the subject line so that folks that only want 
to look at the original topic could find them.

Original:
 [Coco] Dark spot dead center on the screen, TV or CM-8
            Reply:
 [Coco] Re; (ignore and move on to rants) WAS; Dark spot dead center on the 
screen, TV or CM-8
                    or
[Coco] Re; Dark spot dead center on the screen, TV or CM-8 (ignore and move 
on to rants)


 I betcha I missed something in the mix. There may be something in all the 
follow-ups that had value to my delima. But scanning the top of those 
messages indicated that there may not be anything there that relates, so I 
move on to the next one to see if there was some help in THAT one. Nope! 
Move to the next one, and on and on.

 It's fun to go back later and look through the off-topic stuff. But when 
I'm asking for help, I figured that something would happen that may be of 
assistance to me and my problem, WITH A COCO!

 Sorry I yelled.

"Lord, i humbly apologize to all those little people starving in ...."  :)
  "Larry,The Cable Guy)

 Or something like that.

 I suppose that the time it is taking to post this message, I could have 
gone through all the posts to find what I was looking for but, alas, I had 
to get my own rant going.

 If the SUBJECT stays the same, then no one who isn't interested in that 
subject should not  be "offended" by the listing if they don't OPEN the 
darned thing and look at it. If someone posted an ML listing( less than 40k) 
on this list, I would not look at that listing because I would not have a 
clue what I was looking at. I may read the text of the conversations though. 
I'm always up to learning something new.

 I probably should learn assembly. I think it would help in some cases with 
my Coco CNC project. Not a lot though, as the actual milling machine is not 
capable of going fast, except for rapid moves to get to a new cutting point. 
This could help. I bet it could cut the total time by 20 percent.  I have to 
run the milling machine slowly as it doesn't have the brute strength to cut 
metals at any other than VERY slowly. A dremel only can do so much.
 When moving from one cut to another, seeing it just zip over there would be 
really cool. However, right now, it "ZIPs" over there at the same rate as 
the cutting speed because it is still in B09... ie: time for a beer, and a 
smoke and actually look at the TV.
 Heaven forbid I should try this in RSBASIC.  I can hear(in my mind) the 
disk grinding away storing and retrieving data as I do now with a RAM disk. 
Even the RAM disk slows things down, so I only save and retrieve after a 
subroutine does it's thing. I can lose my current postion if I crash the 
mill or have to break out of the program, but for the most part, sofware 
errors are covered. I won't lose my position on the mill. It's a bit slower, 
but saves a lot of time homing out all three axis and starting from the top. 
This process takes about five minutes.

 So finally,

 How do we approach my programming problems in OS9/B09> on a Color Computer> 
on the Color Computer list group?? Without annoying or offending folks that 
aren't interested in this sort of thing?

George





----- Original Message ----- 
From: "George Ramsower" <georgeramsower at gmail.com>
To: <coco at lists5.maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Monday, September 01, 2008 4:03 PM
Subject: [Coco] FOR REAL! Program listings on the list


> I've been thinking of having some of you gurus look at one or more of my
> B09 programs that I use on my CNC machine to see if you can find ways to
> improve it, criticize it/them or otherwise go... WOW, I dunno, George.
>
> However, we have rules about the size of listings. I know for a fact that
> most of my routines are smaller than most of the off-topic posts here 
> lately
> but I thought I should ask anyway.
> These listings would (if I can format them correctly) would look good in 
> an
> email, are usually fairly small. About 4-8k.
>
> Right now, I'm struggling with straight lines that aren't 90 or 180
> degrees. The math is messing with my stepper motor routines and I'm 
> gaining
> and losing steps, throwing the total count off and therefore I end up in 
> the
> wrong places over large drawings with many angles to deal with. It's only 
> a
> few thousands of an inch, but when they have to come together in the end, 
> it
> all adds up.
>
> I working on engraving lately. This is WAY fun!
>
> Circles and arcs always come out perfectly. It's the darned straight lines
> at angles(I'm sure it's my math) that messes things up.
>
> Suggestions?
>
> George