[Coco] Floppy - less boot , was Re: VI and VIRQ

Mark Marlette mark at cloud9tech.com
Wed May 14 08:21:00 EDT 2008


Diego,

I don't think using an 80t will work unless the boot track module is  
also for that drive. The step sizes are different, 80 is 1/2 40's.

I don't think there is an 80 track boot track. I would think that it  
could be made pretty easy. Hardware guys will always say that. :)

Regards,

Mark

Quoting Diego Barizo <diegoba at adinet.com.uy>:

> I was using d0_80 because my real drive 0 is an 80t, I guess that
> explains the different behavior when booting from a virtual floppy and
> from a real disk.
> The script is formatting a SS, but I was merging like this:
> merge ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/rel_80 ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/boot_ide
> ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/krn>-bttemp
> Is this one the correct one?
> merge ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/rel_80 ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/boot_1773_6ms
> ../MODULES/BOOTTRACK/krn>-bttemp
>
> Damn, it's past midnight... to late to try it now, gonna have to wait
> 'till tomorrow :-(
>
> Diego
>
>
> Mark Marlette wrote:
>> Diego,
>>
>> Quick look here.
>>
>> Looks like you have the 80T /d0 descriptor selected. Select d0_35s.
>>
>> Then you need to make sure your script is formatting as SS.
>>
>> Then make sure that you merge the correct loader for SS floppy. I   
>> have done it, been awhile but it does work.
>>
>> Hopefully that helps.....
>>
>> Mark
>> Cloud-9
>>
>> Quoting Diego Barizo <diegoba at adinet.com.uy>:
>>
>>> Now that it comes to mention. I've been trying to create a custom 1s35t
>>> boot disk for my HDB-DOS / SuperIDE setup, completely unsuccessfully so
>>> far.
>>> Looking around, I found a mention of the bug in the rb1773 driver, and
>>> the symptoms match the ones I see, freezing after tb ...... at boot
>>> time.
>>> Will this bug affect an attempt to boot from a HDB-DOS virtual drive?
>>> When I try that, I get all the ..... at boot, and then bCCCC%%V Date
>>> Save Unlink GrfDrv Backup Date # t*j , and final freeze.
>>> Here is my bootlist file, which could be the cause of my problems...
>>>
>>> * Kernel/System Section
>>> *
>>> * These modules are mandatory.
>>> ../MODULES/KERNEL/krnp2
>>> *../MODULES/KERNEL/krnp3_perr
>>> *../MODULES/KERNEL/krnp4_regdump
>>> ../MODULES/SYSMODS/ioman
>>> ../MODULES/SYSMODS/init
>>> *
>>> *
>>> * RBF Section
>>> *
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/rbf.mn
>>> *
>>> * DriveWire driver (Cloud-9 product)
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/drivewire.dr
>>> * DriveWire descriptors - select as needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddx0.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/x0.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/x1.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/x2.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/x3.dd
>>> *
>>> * SuperDriver Package (Cloud-9 product)
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/rbsuper.dr
>>> * Select Low level SCSI and/or IDE driver
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/lltc3.dr
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/llide.dr
>>> * SuperDriver descriptors - select as needed
>>> * SCSI descriptors (IDs 0-7)
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s0_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s1_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s2_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s3_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s4_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s5_tc3.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/s6_tc3.dd
>>> * SCSI HDB-DOS descriptor
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/sh_ide.dd
>>> * IDE descriptors (master/slave)
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/i0_ide.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/i1_ide.dd
>>> * IDE HDB-DOS descriptor
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ih_ide.dd
>>> *
>>> * WD1773 floppy support for Tandy and compatible disk controllers
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/rb1773.dr
>>> * WD1773 floppy support for Disto Super Controller II
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/rb1773_scii_ff74.dr
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/rb1773_scii_ff58.dr
>>> * Floppy device descriptors
>>> * DD - default device - choose one if needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddd0_35s.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddd0_40d.dd
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/ddd0_80d.dd
>>> * D0 - drive 0 - choose one if needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d0_35s.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d0_40d.dd
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/d0_80d.dd
>>> * D1 - drive 1 - choose one if needed
>>> ../MODULES/RBF/d1_35s.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d1_40d.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d1_80d.dd
>>> * D2 - drive 2 - choose one if needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d2_35s.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d2_40d.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d2_80d.dd
>>> * D3 - drive 3 - choose if needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/d3_35s.dd
>>> *
>>> * RAMDisk driver
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/rammer.dr
>>> * RAMDisk descriptors - select as needed
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddr0_8k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddr0_96k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddr0_128k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/ddr0_192k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/r0_8k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/r0_96k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/r0_128k.dd
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/r0_192k.dd
>>> * Memory device descriptor
>>> *../MODULES/RBF/md.dd
>>> ***************************************
>>> * SCF Section
>>> *
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/scf.mn
>>> *
>>> * CoCo 3 I/O driver
>>> * Joystick modules: choose Joystick OR
>>> * (M)icrosoft or (L)ogitech mouse using 6551 or 6552 ACIA
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/vtio.dr
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/keydrv_cc3.sb
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/snddrv_cc3.sb
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/joydrv_joy.sb
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/joydrv_6551M.sb
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/joydrv_6552M.sb
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/joydrv_6551L.sb
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/joydrv_6552L.sb
>>> *
>>> * CoGrf/CoWin subroutine module
>>> * Use CoWin with Multi-Vue; use CoGrf
>>> * for basic text and graphic window support..
>>> * Select only one.
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/cogrf.io
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/cowin.io
>>> *
>>> * CoVDG I/O subroutine module
>>> * Select one or both
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/covdg.io
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/covdg_small.io
>>> *
>>> * Select only one term descriptor
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/term_vdg.dt
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/term_win40.dt
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/term_win80.dt
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/term_bbt.dt
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/term_sc6551.dt
>>> *
>>> * Select as many window descriptors as needed
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w1.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w2.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w3.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w4.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w5.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w6.dw
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/w7.dw
>>> *
>>> * Select as many VDG window descriptors as needed
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/v1.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v2.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v3.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v4.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v5.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v6.dw
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/v7.dw
>>> *
>>> * Serial port drivers
>>> * CoCo Bit-Banger terminal port
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/scbbt.dr
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/t1.dd
>>> * 6551 ACIA
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/sc6551.dr
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/t2_sc6551.dd
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/t3_sc6551.dd
>>> * Tandy Modem Pak
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/modpak.dr
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/m1.dd
>>> *../MODULES/SCF/m2.dd
>>> *
>>> * Printer drivers
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/scbbp.dr
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/p.dd
>>> *
>>> * VRN is a driver module used by certain games, including King's Quest III,
>>> * Leisure Suit Larry and Flight Simulator II. A /nil descriptor is also
>>> * supported.
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/vrn.dr
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/vi.dd
>>> ../MODULES/SCF/ftdd.dd
>>> *
>>> ***************************************
>>> * Pipe Section
>>> *
>>> * Pipes are a useful but optional part of a system.
>>> ../MODULES/PIPE/pipeman.mn
>>> ../MODULES/PIPE/piper.dr
>>> ../MODULES/PIPE/pipe.dd
>>> *
>>> ***************************************
>>> * Clock Section
>>> *
>>> * Select one clock module depending upon your power line frequency
>>> * (60Hz = USA/Canada; 50Hz = Europe, Australia)
>>> ../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock_60hz
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock_50hz
>>> * Select one clock2 module that supports your real-time clock, if any.
>>> * Besides support for the internal software clock, the following
>>> * hardware clocks are supported: Burke & Burke, Disto 2-N-1, Disto 4-N-1,
>>> * Eliminator, Harris, SmartWatch, Cloud-9, the MESS emulator, Jeff
>>> * Vavasour's CoCo emulator, and DriveWire.
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_soft
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_bnb
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_disto2
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_disto4
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_elim
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_harris
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_smart
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_jvemu
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_messemu
>>> ../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_cloud9
>>> *../MODULES/CLOCKS/clock2_dw
>>> *
>>> ***************************************
>>> * System Kick-Start Module
>>> *
>>> * Choose which startup module you wish to use. (sysgo_dd is recommended
>>> * for most configurations.)
>>> *
>>> * Alternatively, this module can reside in the root directory of the
>>> * boot device, saving precious system RAM.
>>> *../MODULES/SYSMODS/sysgo_dd
>>> ../MODULES/SYSMODS/sysgo_h0
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Any idea about the rest of it, like the non booting ss35 disk?    
>>>> Or  is it possible to do a basic "backup 0 to 127" from a 40   
>>>> track DS  disk? (my setup is a 1GB scsi disk, with HDB-DOS new   
>>>> enough to  handle virtual floppies, but I don't recall what size   
>>>> the virtual's  are, os9 side formatted for 4 sector clusters)
>>>>
>>>> Which brings up the question, is it possible to access these    
>>>> virtual disks from nitros9 with a carefully crafted SO, S1 etc    
>>>> descriptors for rbsuper?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Boisy G. Pitre
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