From operator at coco3.com  Sun Jun  1 17:34:31 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:34:31 -0500
Subject: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
In-Reply-To: <g1srv5$rpq$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <g1srv5$rpq$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20080601213542.5842320A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 07:54 PM 5/31/2008, you wrote:
>Hi coco addicts!
>
>Last month I discovered a very good AGI fan made game: Enclosure by Femo Duo
>Entertainment. Unlike the majority of AGI fan made games, it has good
>graphics and a good story. This game is so professionally done that it could
>have been sold commercially. That's why I decided to port it for the coco.
>
>The story takes place in an Antartic research station where a group a
>paranormal experts investigate on strange events.
>
>You can download it at: http://goyim.dyndns.org:8080/coco/Sierra.Games/
>
>For fore information about the game and its authors, you can visit the Femo
>Duo Entertainment web site at: http://home.deds.nl/~femo/
>
>AdventureGamers.com reviewed the game in 2005:
>http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,495
>
>Enjoy!
>
>Guillaume


Man oh man.  If I were just 17 again and had all those sleepless 
nights back I would explore all these new OS-9/AGI games more.  If 
there's two things I would go back in time for I guess it would be 
for all the heart-breaker girls I've dated, and for all the CoCo 
games there just wasn't enough time to play.

You bringing these new adventure titles to the CoCo deserves a big 
award of some kind, that's for sure.





From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Sun Jun  1 21:21:33 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Sun, 1 Jun 2008 20:21:33 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Glenside June Meeting
Message-ID: <20080601.202134.2052.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chris
Thanks for your help. Buying on the Internet makes it easy and fast
way of shopping. 

What else should I bring to the next coco meeting beside my coco3,
SuperIDE with CF, new 256Meg CF units, HDB-DOS 1.1D floppy, dual floppy
drives w/ floppy controller?

I don't know which version was put on my CF unit.

John
 
On Sat, 31 May 2008 17:00:11 -0500 Christopher Hawks <chawks at dls.net>
writes:
> John T Chasteen said the following on 05/31/2008 03:09 PM:
> > Thanks Chris. see you at the Library.
> > Where do you buy your CF 250meg units? 
> 
>         You can get them from lots of places. The last ones I bought 
> were Qmemory 60x 
> 256Meg from The Flash Memory Store ( www.flash-memory-store.com ) 
> for about $15 
> a piece. I usually by fast ones 'cause they're only a few bucks 
> more.
> 
> -- 
> Christopher R. Hawks
> HAWKSoft
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> The trouble with conspiracy theories are that they assume the 
> government
> is organized.
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 
> 
 
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From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Mon Jun  2 05:11:29 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 03:11:29 -0600
Subject: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
In-Reply-To: <g1srv5$rpq$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <g1srv5$rpq$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <20080602091129.GB3486@virgo.sdc.org>

On Sat, May 31, 2008 at 08:54:02PM -0400, Guillaume Major wrote:
> Last month I discovered a very good AGI fan made game: Enclosure by Femo Duo 
[..]
>That's why I decided to port it for the coco.

Wow!  That's really cool!  

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From keeper63 at cox.net  Mon Jun  2 11:32:11 2008
From: keeper63 at cox.net (Andrew)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 08:32:11 -0700
Subject: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
In-Reply-To: <mailman.25.1212415226.48590.coco@maltedmedia.com>
References: <mailman.25.1212415226.48590.coco@maltedmedia.com>
Message-ID: <4844127B.5050606@cox.net>

> Message: 1
> Date: Sun, 01 Jun 2008 16:34:31 -0500
> From: Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <20080601213542.5842320A33 at qs281.pair.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> At 07:54 PM 5/31/2008, you wrote:
> 
>>Hi coco addicts!
>>
>>Last month I discovered a very good AGI fan made game: Enclosure by Femo Duo
>>Entertainment. Unlike the majority of AGI fan made games, it has good
>>graphics and a good story. This game is so professionally done that it could
>>have been sold commercially. That's why I decided to port it for the coco.
>>
>>The story takes place in an Antartic research station where a group a
>>paranormal experts investigate on strange events.
>>
>>You can download it at: http://goyim.dyndns.org:8080/coco/Sierra.Games/
>>
>>For fore information about the game and its authors, you can visit the Femo
>>Duo Entertainment web site at: http://home.deds.nl/~femo/
>>
>>AdventureGamers.com reviewed the game in 2005:
>>http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,495
>>
>>Enjoy!
>>
>>Guillaume
> 
> 
> 
> Man oh man.  If I were just 17 again and had all those sleepless 
> nights back I would explore all these new OS-9/AGI games more.  If 
> there's two things I would go back in time for I guess it would be 
> for all the heart-breaker girls I've dated, and for all the CoCo 
> games there just wasn't enough time to play.
> 
> You bringing these new adventure titles to the CoCo deserves a big 
> award of some kind, that's for sure.

Here! Here!

Most definitely does he deserve an award - I wish I had the time as well 
to explore all of these new games - I don't even have the time to 
explore and play the games I already have!

Awesome job!

-- Andrew


From chawks at dls.net  Mon Jun  2 19:48:40 2008
From: chawks at dls.net (Christopher Hawks)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:48:40 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Glenside June Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080601.202134.2052.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080601.202134.2052.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <484486D8.6010109@dls.net>

John T Chasteen said the following on 06/01/2008 08:21 PM:
> Chris
> Thanks for your help. Buying on the Internet makes it easy and fast
> way of shopping. 
> 
> What else should I bring to the next coco meeting beside my coco3,
> SuperIDE with CF, new 256Meg CF units, HDB-DOS 1.1D floppy, dual floppy
> drives w/ floppy controller?

	I'll bring the USB-CF and IDE-CF adapters. I'll also bring an RGB-SVideo 
adapter and my 15" LCD TV.

	That should give us everything we need.

-- 
Christopher R. Hawks
HAWKSoft
---------------------------------------------------------
Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; give him a freshly-charged
Electric Eel and chances are he won't bother you for anything ever again.
	-- Tanuki in asr


From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Mon Jun  2 20:20:59 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Mon, 2 Jun 2008 19:20:59 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Glenside June Meeting
Message-ID: <20080602.192100.3016.2.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chris

I got my CF Adapter today from Mark.
How do you power your adapter?  What is the polarity markings?

John 
On Mon, 02 Jun 2008 18:48:40 -0500 Christopher Hawks <chawks at dls.net>
writes:
> John T Chasteen said the following on 06/01/2008 08:21 PM:
> > Chris
> > Thanks for your help. Buying on the Internet makes it easy and 
> fast
> > way of shopping. 
> > 
> > What else should I bring to the next coco meeting beside my 
> coco3,
> > SuperIDE with CF, new 256Meg CF units, HDB-DOS 1.1D floppy, dual 
> floppy
> > drives w/ floppy controller?
> 
>         I'll bring the USB-CF and IDE-CF adapters. I'll also bring 
> an RGB-SVideo 
> adapter and my 15" LCD TV.
> 
>         That should give us everything we need.
> 
> -- 
> Christopher R. Hawks
> HAWKSoft
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> Give a man a fish and you feed him for a day; give him a 
> freshly-charged
> Electric Eel and chances are he won't bother you for anything ever 
> again.
>         -- Tanuki in asr
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 
> 
 


From chawks at dls.net  Mon Jun  2 20:48:23 2008
From: chawks at dls.net (Christopher Hawks)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 19:48:23 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Glenside June Meeting
In-Reply-To: <20080602.192100.3016.2.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080602.192100.3016.2.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <484494D7.7020902@dls.net>

John T Chasteen said the following on 06/02/2008 07:20 PM:
> Chris
> 
> I got my CF Adapter today from Mark.
> How do you power your adapter?  What is the polarity markings?

John:

	My Coco3s have 5volt jacks for powering extra stuff. I have a 5volt 720k 
floppy drive, 5volt RGB-SVideo adapter, and the CF adapter takes 5volts. I 
built a cable for the CF-adapter from a 3 1/2 inch drive power plug and a 1/8" 
plug. I don't remember the pinout of the power connector, It had the wires (red 
for +5, black for ground) all ready.

-- 
Christopher R. Hawks
HAWKSoft
---------------------------------------------------------
I told all of my friends how they were losers for running Unix. They
should switch to NT. It was the future. That was more or less my constant
refrain until one pivotal event changed my life: I actually tried to use
NT.
	-- Philip Greenspun


From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun  2 21:23:28 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:23:28 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow IDE 1.6 upgrade
Message-ID: <20080603012333.7110820A36@qs281.pair.com>

Attention Rainbow IDE 1.4 users...

An updated version (1.6) is about to be posted on www.rainbowide.com 
and www.coco3.com.

To upgrade, just copy the files that are in the .zip into your 
Rainbow install folder, such as C:\Program Files\Rainbow IDE\

Choose YES when Windows asks you if you want to overwrite existing 
files with the same names.

Rainbow 1.6 lets you use the latest version(s) of the M.E.S.S. 
emulator (such as 0.125) that use the "-flop#" options for mounting 
virtual floppy disks, while support is no longer available for older 
versions of the M.E.S.S. emulator (such as .104b) that use the older 
"-flop" option for mounting disks.

Also, if you want to use the i686 optimized version of M.E.S.S. 
(downloadable from mess.org) you must tell Rainbow the name of the 
emulator executable which is messuipp.exe (not messgui.exe).  Rainbow 
will act as if it doesn't see the messuipp.exe file when you browse 
for it in the IDE, so when setting your M.E.S.S. options, type in the 
name of this file manually when it asks -->  messuipp.exe.  That's 
it.  Rainbow is now set to launch the latest .0125 i686 optimized 
version of M.E.S.S. and you should be back in business.  The standard 
messgui.exe emulator build is also supported the same.





From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun  2 21:33:54 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 20:33:54 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow IDE 1.6 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20080603012333.7110820A36@qs281.pair.com>
References: <20080603012333.7110820A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <20080603013358.9E6AB20A35@qs281.pair.com>

Actually, I'm trying to build a new installer file for Rainbow 1.6 
which might be ready tonight or tomorrow as I have to test it several 
times, but if you want to go ahead and manually upgrade the main 
executable (rainbow.exe), I'm posting that in a few minutes.  Just 
copy over your existing file.






From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun  2 23:06:38 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 02 Jun 2008 22:06:38 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow IDE 1.6 upgrade
In-Reply-To: <20080603013358.9E6AB20A35@qs281.pair.com>
References: <20080603012333.7110820A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<20080603013358.9E6AB20A35@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <20080603032522.832A420A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 08:33 PM 6/2/2008, you wrote:
>Actually, I'm trying to build a new installer file for Rainbow 1.6 
>which might be ready tonight or tomorrow as I have to test it 
>several times, but if you want to go ahead and manually upgrade the 
>main executable (rainbow.exe), I'm posting that in a few 
>minutes.  Just copy over your existing file.



The new Rainbow IDE 1.6 update is now available as a Microsoft .msi 
installer file.  You can download it from 
http://www.rainbowide.com.  Please let me know if there are any 
problems.  Everything, including CCASM 5.0 and all IDE support tools 
are in this one installer.  If there seems to be something missing, 
try installing 1.4 first then 1.6 over it, but I think everything is there.

Existing Rainbow IDE users shouldn't have to enter their key again, 
as the installer does not wite a new rainbow.ini file.  The IDE, 
however, will make a new .ini file if this is a fresh install.




From devries.bob at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 05:42:02 2008
From: devries.bob at gmail.com (Bob Devries)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 17:42:02 +0800
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
Message-ID: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>

Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to Catherine.

http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/


--
Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
the capacity to be his spokesman,
so that I know how to help the weary.

website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/



From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Tue Jun  3 06:48:55 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:48:55 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
Message-ID: <000301c8c567$6be6cb90$43b462b0$@com>

:(  Would not let me in..

"Hmm. That invitation link isn't working"

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Bob Devries
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:42 AM
To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@five.pairlist.net
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream

Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
Catherine.

http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/


--
Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
the capacity to be his spokesman,
so that I know how to help the weary.

website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/


--
Coco mailing list
Coco at maltedmedia.com
http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco



From os9dude at gmail.com  Tue Jun  3 06:57:51 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 06:57:51 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <000301c8c567$6be6cb90$43b462b0$@com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<000301c8c567$6be6cb90$43b462b0$@com>
Message-ID: <5631e580806030357r22844a05h822185a2a62c5d22@mail.gmail.com>

Same here... this is the first line in the Flickr notice after trying to
access:

"The link in the welcome email you received from us can only be used once."



-=[ Rogelio ]=-


On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Tom Seagrove <tjseagrove at writeme.com> wrote:

> :(  Would not let me in..
>
> "Hmm. That invitation link isn't working"
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Bob Devries
> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:42 AM
> To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@five.pairlist.net
> Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
>
> Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
> Catherine.
>
> http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>
>
> --
> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
>
> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
> the capacity to be his spokesman,
> so that I know how to help the weary.
>
> website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl<http://www.home.gil.com.au/%7Ebdevasl>
> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
>


From larrybo at idirect.com  Tue Jun  3 11:53:18 2008
From: larrybo at idirect.com (Larry Osborne)
Date: Tue, 3 Jun 2008 11:53:18 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806030357r22844a05h822185a2a62c5d22@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba><000301c8c567$6be6cb90$43b462b0$@com>
	<5631e580806030357r22844a05h822185a2a62c5d22@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <AA40EDB4E991471E92DBABED5CF76600@UserPC>

Same here too.  Maybe Flickr has a more open invitation format that could 
have been used?
Larry


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rogelio Perea" <os9dude at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 6:57 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream


> Same here... this is the first line in the Flickr notice after trying to
> access:
>
> "The link in the welcome email you received from us can only be used 
> once."
>
>
>
> -=[ Rogelio ]=-
>
>
> On Tue, Jun 3, 2008 at 6:48 AM, Tom Seagrove <tjseagrove at writeme.com> 
> wrote:
>
>> :(  Would not let me in..
>>
>> "Hmm. That invitation link isn't working"
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
>> On
>> Behalf Of Bob Devries
>> Sent: Tuesday, June 03, 2008 5:42 AM
>> To: "Undisclosed-Recipient:;"@five.pairlist.net
>> Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
>>
>> Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
>> Catherine.
>>
>> http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>>
>>
>> --
>> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
>>
>> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
>> the capacity to be his spokesman,
>> so that I know how to help the weary.
>>
>> website: 
>> http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl<http://www.home.gil.com.au/%7Ebdevasl>
>> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
>>
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco




From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jun  3 12:19:15 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 12:19:15 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
Message-ID: <200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
> Catherine.
>
>http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>
Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you signed up)

I aborted a sign-up on facebook a week ago, but my incoming spam has still 
quadrupled since.

I'd love to see it Bob, but every time I touch one of those 'social' sites with 
a 100 foot pole, the spam multiplies.  Sorry.

>--
>Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
>
>Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
>the capacity to be his spokesman,
>so that I know how to help the weary.
>
>website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
>my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
>
>
>--
>Coco mailing list
>Coco at maltedmedia.com
>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Food for thought is no substitute for the real thing.
		-- Walt Kelly, "Potluck Pogo"


From operator at coco3.com  Tue Jun  3 17:28:43 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 16:28:43 -0500
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>

At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
>On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
> > Catherine.
> >
> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
> >
>Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you signed up)



It didn't work for me either way.
You're killin' me, Bob.   We wanna see some pics!   :)





From fredprov5 at usfamily.net  Wed Jun  4 00:18:45 2008
From: fredprov5 at usfamily.net (Fred D. Provoncha)
Date: Tue, 03 Jun 2008 23:18:45 -0500 (CDT)
Subject: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
In-Reply-To: <mailman.19.1212328830.36505.coco@maltedmedia.com>
References: <mailman.19.1212328830.36505.coco@maltedmedia.com>
Message-ID: <484617A4.80802@usfamily.net>

> From: "Guillaume Major" <gmajor at videotron.ca>
> Subject: [Coco] New AGI game for the coco: Enclosure
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Message-ID: <g1srv5$rpq$1 at ger.gmane.org>
>
> Hi coco addicts!
>
> Last month I discovered a very good AGI fan made game: Enclosure by Femo Duo 
> Entertainment. Unlike the majority of AGI fan made games, it has good 
> graphics and a good story. This game is so professionally done that it could 
> have been sold commercially. That's why I decided to port it for the coco.
>
> The story takes place in an Antartic research station where a group a 
> paranormal experts investigate on strange events.
>
> You can download it at: http://goyim.dyndns.org:8080/coco/Sierra.Games/
>
> For fore information about the game and its authors, you can visit the Femo 
> Duo Entertainment web site at: http://home.deds.nl/~femo/
>
> AdventureGamers.com reviewed the game in 2005: 
> http://www.adventuregamers.com/article/id,495
>
> Enjoy!
> 
> Guillaume 

Great job Guillaume! I've already downloaded and installed Enclosure on my real Coco3 and it works great under NitrOS-9 running from my hard drive. It'll take me a while to explore all these games. Thank you so much, these games are fantastic!

Fred Provoncha
Stansbury Park, UT



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From msmcdoug at iinet.net.au  Wed Jun  4 02:59:37 2008
From: msmcdoug at iinet.net.au (Mark McDougall)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 02:59:37 -0400
Subject: [Coco] chili!!!!Re:  COCO3 System Arrangement of modules
In-Reply-To: <052520082055.14390.4839D24100012DCD0000383622069984990B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>
References: <052520082055.14390.4839D24100012DCD0000383622069984990B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <48463D59.3030602@iinet.net.au>

wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:

> Chili is not a vegetable.  While vegetables may be used as flavoring
> (tomatoes and/or tomatillos, onions, garlic and especially chiles),

Actually, tomato is a fruit!

Regards,
Mark


From wdg3rd at comcast.net  Wed Jun  4 12:11:15 2008
From: wdg3rd at comcast.net (wdg3rd at comcast.net)
Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:11:15 +0000
Subject: [Coco] chili!!!!Re:  COCO3 System Arrangement of modules
Message-ID: <060420081611.12170.4846BEA3000AECA900002F8A22070208530B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>

From: Mark McDougall <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au>
> wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> > Chili is not a vegetable.  While vegetables may be used as flavoring
> > (tomatoes and/or tomatillos, onions, garlic and especially chiles),
> 
> Actually, tomato is a fruit!

Yes, I know.  Tomatoes were declared a legal vegetable by the legislature in these United States for some tariff situation a century or so back.  Chiles are also fruit, though I don't know what the law says.  Tomatillos are fruit (related to gooseberries, actually) but I doubt that many of the idiots in the legislature even know they exist.  I'm pretty sure lily bulbs in the allium family are still vegetables, but the legislature is currently in session and anything could happen.
--
Ward Griffiths    wdg3rd at comcast.net

These histrionics were probably unnecessary, since there was no reason to think anybody would be watching us with more than casual interest until I made my first move to follow Buchanon's trail, in London.  Still, somebody might check back this far later, and I always feel that if you're going to play a part, you might as well play it all the way, at least in public -- and it's hard to tell what's public and what isn't, these electronic days.
Donald Hamilton, _The Devastators_, 1965


From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Wed Jun  4 17:55:29 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 16:55:29 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Latest version HDB-DOS 1.1D
Message-ID: <20080604.165530.1464.2.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Thanks Boisy for the latest version of HDB-DOS 1.1D.
I received in the US mail today along with the 
"COCO TV DVD Volume 1 Disc 1

John
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From alxevans at concentric.net  Wed Jun  4 23:21:00 2008
From: alxevans at concentric.net (Alex Evans)
Date: Wed, 4 Jun 2008 17:21:00 -1000
Subject: [Coco] chili!!!!Re:  COCO3 System Arrangement of modules
In-Reply-To: <060420081611.12170.4846BEA3000AECA900002F8A22070208530B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>
References: <060420081611.12170.4846BEA3000AECA900002F8A22070208530B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>
Message-ID: <19130F8A-F73A-41EE-B65E-1264465DDEC2@concentric.net>


On  4  Jun 2008, at 6:11 AM, wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:

> From: Mark McDougall <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au>
>> wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
>>
>>> Chili is not a vegetable.  While vegetables may be used as flavoring
>>> (tomatoes and/or tomatillos, onions, garlic and especially chiles),
>>
>> Actually, tomato is a fruit!
>
> Yes, I know.  Tomatoes were declared a legal vegetable by the  
> legislature in these United States for some tariff situation a  
> century or so back.  Chiles are also fruit, though I don't know  
> what the law says.  Tomatillos are fruit (related to gooseberries,  
> actually) but I doubt that many of the idiots in the legislature  
> even know they exist.  I'm pretty sure lily bulbs in the allium  
> family are still vegetables, but the legislature is currently in  
> session and anything could happen.

If you look at the applicable part of a typical dictionary definition  
(the edible part of a plant), all fruits are vegetables.  It is also  
true that some fruits are almost never referred to as vegetables  
(apples and oranges) and some are often referred to that way (peppers  
and cucumbers).



From diegoba at adinet.com.uy  Thu Jun  5 00:33:26 2008
From: diegoba at adinet.com.uy (Diego Barizo)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:33:26 -0300
Subject: [Coco] OT !!!!Re: chili!!!!Re: COCO3 System Arrangement of modules
In-Reply-To: <19130F8A-F73A-41EE-B65E-1264465DDEC2@concentric.net>
References: <060420081611.12170.4846BEA3000AECA900002F8A22070208530B9DCC090B99@comcast.net>
	<19130F8A-F73A-41EE-B65E-1264465DDEC2@concentric.net>
Message-ID: <48476C96.1060800@adinet.com.uy>

In Spanish, we have 2 different words, "vegetales" and "verduras", the 
first means "plants" anything from the vegetable kingdom, the second 
one, is for "veggies". Fruits are "vegetales" but not "verduras"

Diego


Alex Evans wrote:
>
> On  4  Jun 2008, at 6:11 AM, wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
>
>> From: Mark McDougall <msmcdoug at iinet.net.au>
>>> wdg3rd at comcast.net wrote:
>>>
>>>> Chili is not a vegetable.  While vegetables may be used as flavoring
>>>> (tomatoes and/or tomatillos, onions, garlic and especially chiles),
>>>
>>> Actually, tomato is a fruit!
>>
>> Yes, I know.  Tomatoes were declared a legal vegetable by the 
>> legislature in these United States for some tariff situation a 
>> century or so back.  Chiles are also fruit, though I don't know what 
>> the law says.  Tomatillos are fruit (related to gooseberries, 
>> actually) but I doubt that many of the idiots in the legislature even 
>> know they exist.  I'm pretty sure lily bulbs in the allium family are 
>> still vegetables, but the legislature is currently in session and 
>> anything could happen.
>
> If you look at the applicable part of a typical dictionary definition 
> (the edible part of a plant), all fruits are vegetables.  It is also 
> true that some fruits are almost never referred to as vegetables 
> (apples and oranges) and some are often referred to that way (peppers 
> and cucumbers).
>
>
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From diegoba at adinet.com.uy  Thu Jun  5 00:39:52 2008
From: diegoba at adinet.com.uy (Diego Barizo)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 01:39:52 -0300
Subject: [Coco] Chat at CoCo3.com
Message-ID: <48476E18.2060108@adinet.com.uy>

It's been ages since the last time I found anyone there.
Is just that nobody is getting there, or maybe there is some kind of 
problem with the chat system?
What about trying to arrange a meeting, may be this Sunday, let's say 7 
PM Eastern time? (Should be around 11 PM GMT, right?)

Diego



From fwp at deepthought.com  Thu Jun  5 01:38:01 2008
From: fwp at deepthought.com (Frank Pittel)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 00:38:01 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Chat at CoCo3.com
In-Reply-To: <48476E18.2060108@adinet.com.uy>
References: <48476E18.2060108@adinet.com.uy>
Message-ID: <20080605053801.GO25030@warlock.deepthought.com>

I've noticed the same thing. I try going there once or twice a day and never see
anyone or even any sign that someone was there.


On Thu, Jun 05, 2008 at 01:39:52AM -0300, Diego Barizo wrote:
> It's been ages since the last time I found anyone there.
> Is just that nobody is getting there, or maybe there is some kind of 
> problem with the chat system?
> What about trying to arrange a meeting, may be this Sunday, let's say 7 PM 
> Eastern time? (Should be around 11 PM GMT, right?)
>
> Diego
>
>
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From operator at coco3.com  Thu Jun  5 01:06:03 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Thu, 05 Jun 2008 00:06:03 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Chat at CoCo3.com
In-Reply-To: <20080605053801.GO25030@warlock.deepthought.com>
References: <48476E18.2060108@adinet.com.uy>
	<20080605053801.GO25030@warlock.deepthought.com>
Message-ID: <20080605050626.6D69D20A35@qs281.pair.com>

At 12:38 AM 6/5/2008, you wrote:
>I've noticed the same thing. I try going there once or twice a day 
>and never see
>anyone or even any sign that someone was there.


There might be an Internet Explorer issue, but I'll need reports and 
feedback.  Typically, only a few repeat visitors seem to take the 
time to report problems.

The older system would retain so many past messages at a time but the 
new one removes past messages after a while.  I'll see if there is a 
setting to retain "signs of life" in the new chat room.  Also, when 
you leave the page, it removes you from chat instantly.  This is some 
kind of "ajax" system, which is ok except for the part where it 
assumes you are gone when you browse to another page on the 
site.  That's terrible, I know, but the instant update messaging is real nice.

I may put back in the original chatroom and give us two types of rooms.




From billcousert at yahoo.com  Thu Jun  5 14:59:04 2008
From: billcousert at yahoo.com (Bill Cousert)
Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2008 11:59:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Chat at CoCo3.com
Message-ID: <62015.33974.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Midnight GMT, or 4pm PST. How about 5pm Eastern Time? That should make it easier for those on GMT time, if there are any.


----- Original Message ----
What about trying to arrange a meeting, may be this Sunday, let's say 7 
PM Eastern time? (Should be around 11 PM GMT, right?)

Diego


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From devries.bob at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 06:45:08 2008
From: devries.bob at gmail.com (Bob Devries)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:45:08 +0800
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>

Sorry, guys.
Please try this link:

http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text

Hope that works for you.



On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
>
> At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
>
>> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
>> > Catherine.
>> >
>> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>> >
>> Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you signed up)
>>
>
>
>
> It didn't work for me either way.
> You're killin' me, Bob.   We wanna see some pics!   :)
>
>
>
>
> --
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>



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Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
the capacity to be his spokesman,
so that I know how to help the weary.

website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/


From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Fri Jun  6 11:03:58 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 11:03:58 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806061103.58429.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Friday 06 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>Sorry, guys.
>Please try this link:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
>
>Hope that works for you.
>
>On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
>> At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
>>> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>>> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
>>> > Catherine.
>>> >
>>> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/

That's MUCH better.  How many of the children there came with Catherine?

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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From larrybo at idirect.com  Fri Jun  6 11:19:45 2008
From: larrybo at idirect.com (Larry Osborne)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:19:45 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba><200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net><20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <8BEED1C4FCEE4B8F8AA1C64F3BDAB89F@UserPC>

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 6:45 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream


> Sorry, guys.
> Please try this link:
>
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
>
> Hope that works for you.
>
>
>
> On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
>>
>> At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
>>
>>> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>>> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding to
>>> > Catherine.
>>> >
>>> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>>> >
>>> Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you signed up)
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> It didn't work for me either way.
>> You're killin' me, Bob.   We wanna see some pics!   :)
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
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>> Coco at maltedmedia.com
>> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>>
>
>
>
> -- 
> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
>
> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
> the capacity to be his spokesman,
> so that I know how to help the weary.
>
> website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
>
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Ah, much better.

Catherine is a lovely bride. Course, seeing a picture of you was a shock, I 
have kept an idea/image? in my head that is more akin to what you might have 
looked like in the eighties.  I've got to remember that we've all aged 25 to 
30 years from when we were getting our CoCo's originally and adjust mental 
images accordingly.

Congratulations on your wedding and I wish you and your bride many happy 
years to come.

Larry Osborne




From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 12:51:53 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:51:53 -0500
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
Message-ID: <20080606.115153.3776.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Bob
Congratulations on your weeding. The pictures are great.
When did you shave the full beard? 
We wish you many happy years .
God bless your marriage

John
   
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:45:08 +0800 "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
writes:
> Sorry, guys.
> Please try this link:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
> 
> Hope that works for you.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
> >
> > At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
> >> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my 
> wedding to
> >> > Catherine.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
> >> >
> >> Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you 
> signed up)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > It didn't work for me either way.
> > You're killin' me, Bob.   We wanna see some pics!   :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Coco mailing list
> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
> 
> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
> the capacity to be his spokesman,
> so that I know how to help the weary.
> 
> website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
> 
> --
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> 
> 
 
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 13:18:42 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 12:18:42 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Fw: Re:  My Flikr wedding photostream
Message-ID: <20080606.121842.3776.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Bob
Sorry about the spelling. Wedding is more fun than weeding.
Cheers

John
--------- Forwarded message ----------
From: John T Chasteen <johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 11:51:53 -0500
Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
Message-ID: <20080606.115153.3776.0.johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
 
Bob
Congratulations on your weeding. The pictures are great.
When did you shave the full beard? 
We wish you many happy years .
God bless your marriage
 
John
   
On Fri, 6 Jun 2008 18:45:08 +0800 "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
writes:
> Sorry, guys.
> Please try this link:
> 
> http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
> 
> Hope that works for you.
> 
> 
> 
> On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
> >
> > At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
> >
> >> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
> >> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my 
> wedding to
> >> > Catherine.
> >> >
> >> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
> >> >
> >> Humm, that invitation link isn't working (but it would if you 
> signed up)
> >>
> >
> >
> >
> > It didn't work for me either way.
> > You're killin' me, Bob.   We wanna see some pics!   :)
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Coco mailing list
> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> >
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia
> 
> Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me
> the capacity to be his spokesman,
> so that I know how to help the weary.
> 
> website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl
> my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/
> 
> --
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> 
> 

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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 16:17:56 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:17:56 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Flash Memory Units
Message-ID: <20080606.151757.1844.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Thanks Chris for the ordering info for my CF 245Meg, High speed'
They are very careful with my order.

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Hope everyone has the same service that I am getting
from Michelle.

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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 16:23:57 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:23:57 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Fw:  Flash Memory Units
Message-ID: <20080606.152358.1844.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>














The CF unit is 256Meg not 245meg

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From: John T Chasteen <johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Cc: orders at FlashMemoryStore.com
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:17:56 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Flash Memory Units
Message-ID: <20080606.151757.1844.0.johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
 
Thanks Chris for the ordering info for my CF 245Meg, High speed'
They are very careful with my order.
 John
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From rvanscherpe at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 18:34:55 2008
From: rvanscherpe at gmail.com (Ron VanScherpe)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 15:34:55 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
Message-ID: <e5d2079a0806061534x4d87fdc9y787691279ec876cd@mail.gmail.com>

Does anyone know of a scanning project for scanning in Rainbow magazine?  I
know there was one mentioned a few years ago, but it seems to have stopped.
Anyone else doing it? If not, how might one go about doing it?  The
legalities behind it

Thanks.

Ron.


From operator at coco3.com  Fri Jun  6 18:59:25 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 17:59:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080606225940.072BE20A36@qs281.pair.com>

At 05:45 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote:
>Sorry, guys.
>Please try this link:
>
>http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
>
>Hope that works for you.


She's gorgeous, Bob.  Hook me up with one of her cousins?  :)

Just some newly wed fun,
On the beard removal...
for any Pirates of Silicon Valley fans,

"uh, where's your beard?"
Bob -> "I shaved it off"
"why?"
Bob -> "because brides don't like beards (Bob is holding a circuit 
board at this time, examining the chips)"

Hehe.  Yea, you cool cat, that took about '30 years' off your life 
(just kidding)!

Anyway, I wish you the best, man!




From neilsmorr at gmail.com  Fri Jun  6 19:37:31 2008
From: neilsmorr at gmail.com (Neil Morrison)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 16:37:31 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
In-Reply-To: <e5d2079a0806061534x4d87fdc9y787691279ec876cd@mail.gmail.com>
References: <e5d2079a0806061534x4d87fdc9y787691279ec876cd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93f331ac0806061637m1f0c8b6ct7c3ece215ee63093@mail.gmail.com>

IMO the legalities probably ended with the death of the publisher.
Anyone who wants to should just go ahead. I doubt there's anyone left
who will complain.

Neil

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ron VanScherpe <rvanscherpe at gmail.com> wrote:
> Does anyone know of a scanning project for scanning in Rainbow magazine?  I
> know there was one mentioned a few years ago, but it seems to have stopped.
> Anyone else doing it? If not, how might one go about doing it?  The
> legalities behind it
>
> Thanks.
>
> Ron.


From diegoba at adinet.com.uy  Fri Jun  6 21:58:34 2008
From: diegoba at adinet.com.uy (Diego Barizo)
Date: Fri, 06 Jun 2008 22:58:34 -0300
Subject: [Coco] Chat at CoCo3.com
In-Reply-To: <62015.33974.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <62015.33974.qm@web38006.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4849EB4A.3030705@adinet.com.uy>

Works for me. I'll be there

Diego


Bill Cousert wrote:
> Midnight GMT, or 4pm PST. How about 5pm Eastern Time? That should make it easier for those on GMT time, if there are any.
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> What about trying to arrange a meeting, may be this Sunday, let's say 7 
> PM Eastern time? (Should be around 11 PM GMT, right?)
>
> Diego
>
>
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>
>
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun  6 23:17:31 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 6 Jun 2008 22:17:31 -0500
Subject: [Coco] 5 volt mod.
Message-ID: <20080606.221731.3276.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chris

Thanks for the circuit information to obtain 5 volt DC from the coco3 
to power the Cloud9 CF IDE Adaptor. I Googled (5 volt regulator" and
found that Radio Shack has a 7805 5 volt regulator (Part #276-1770).

So for I haven't figured out the polarity of the voltage that must be
applied to the CF power connector. Hope I can find this out from the CF
documentation. 

John   

On Fri, 06 Jun 2008 20:08:41 -0500 Christopher Hawks <chawks at dls.net>
writes:
> John T Chasteen said the following on 06/04/2008 09:07 PM:
> > Chris
> > 
> > What part do I need to modify my coco3 so I could get 5Volts with 
> maybe a
> > plug and socket.  Any suggestions?
> 
> John:
> 
>         You'll need a 5 volt regulator. Like the 7805, sometimes you 
> can find them at 
> Radio Shack.
> 
>         Tap power from the banded end of diode D1 and ground from 
> somewhere near by. 
> Connect to the input and ground of the regulator. connect the output 
> from the 
> regulator and another ground to a jack mounted on your Coco3.
> 
>         You should see about 8 volts from the banded end of D1 to 
> ground.
> 
> -- 
> Christopher R. Hawks
> HAWKSoft
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> In most countries selling harmful things like drugs is punishable.
> Then howcome people can sell Microsoft software and go unpunished?
>         -- Hasse Skrifvars, hasku at rost.abo.fi,
> 
> 
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From chawks at dls.net  Sat Jun  7 10:13:08 2008
From: chawks at dls.net (Christopher Hawks)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:13:08 -0500
Subject: [Coco] 5 volt mod.
In-Reply-To: <20080606.221731.3276.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080606.221731.3276.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <484A9774.5020404@dls.net>

John T Chasteen said the following on 06/06/2008 10:17 PM:
> Chris
> 
> Thanks for the circuit information to obtain 5 volt DC from the coco3 
> to power the Cloud9 CF IDE Adaptor. I Googled (5 volt regulator" and
> found that Radio Shack has a 7805 5 volt regulator (Part #276-1770).
> 
> So for I haven't figured out the polarity of the voltage that must be
> applied to the CF power connector. Hope I can find this out from the CF
> documentation. 

John:

	On the 4 pin connector on the adapter, +5 volts is the pin closest to the IDE 
connector. The middle 2 are ground. The other one (+12 volts on a disk drive) 
is probably not connected.

-- 
Christopher R. Hawks
HAWKSoft
---------------------------------------------------------
MS-DOS is the worst text adventure game I have ever played:
poor vocabulary, weak parser and a boring storyline.
	--Ignatios Souvatzis


From dml_68 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun  7 11:16:43 2008
From: dml_68 at yahoo.com (Derek)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
In-Reply-To: <93f331ac0806061637m1f0c8b6ct7c3ece215ee63093@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <37352.24921.qm@web30206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I agree. I have a few issues scanned and would not mind sharing them but have thought I would get a Tandy Smack Down from the community for doing so.



** Mistrust Authority. Promote Decentralization **


 

--- On Fri, 6/6/08, Neil Morrison &lt;neilsmorr at gmail.com&gt; wrote:
From: Neil Morrison &lt;neilsmorr at gmail.com&gt;
Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" &lt;coco at maltedmedia.com&gt;
Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 4:37 PM

IMO the legalities probably ended with the death of the publisher.
Anyone who wants to should just go ahead. I doubt there's anyone left
who will complain.

Neil

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ron VanScherpe &lt;rvanscherpe at gmail.com&gt;
wrote:
&gt; Does anyone know of a scanning project for scanning in Rainbow magazine? 
I
&gt; know there was one mentioned a few years ago, but it seems to have
stopped.
&gt; Anyone else doing it? If not, how might one go about doing it?  The
&gt; legalities behind it
&gt;
&gt; Thanks.
&gt;
&gt; Ron.

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From rvanscherpe at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 11:33:49 2008
From: rvanscherpe at gmail.com (Ron VanScherpe)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 08:33:49 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine Scan
Message-ID: <e5d2079a0806070833r73f3a37dvb98d859668828832@mail.gmail.com>

OK,

Well I will pick it up then.  I have started scanning some issues from '83
and '84 however I do not have all the issues.  I do have all of '86 some of
'85, '87 and '88.  Would love some help filling in the gaps.  Would love to
make this freely available IF possible.

Ron.


From petrander at gmail.com  Sat Jun  7 14:50:48 2008
From: petrander at gmail.com (Fedor Steeman)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 20:50:48 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
Message-ID: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>

Hi everyone,

What is the best area in memory to place a ML program that complements and
can be used from BASIC? And this should go for CoCo 1/2 & 3!

Cheers,

Fedor


From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sat Jun  7 18:22:24 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 18:22:24 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806071822.24281.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Saturday 07 June 2008, Fedor Steeman wrote:
>Hi everyone,
>
>What is the best area in memory to place a ML program that complements and
>can be used from BASIC? And this should go for CoCo 1/2 & 3!
>
>Cheers,
>
>Fedor
>
There is no one best address for that that does not steal memory from rsbasic.

There was a very handy little edit assistant that Jake Commander wrote back in 
the old grey ghost days called Chrmakey I think.  His original code borrowed 
the keyboard scan address somehow that I've forgotten now, and when the white 
coco1's came out with basic1.1, I had to patch it and discovered that Jake had 
used a direct jump in the original that was supposed to be an indirect [jump] 
according to the RS published guidelines.  But, this lived at an address just 
below the $8000 in basic space, and basic didn't know about it which lead to 
some interesting crashes with big basic programs, so while I was doing the 
patch, I wrote a little thing that put the coco1 & 2's in the all ram mode, 
then copied this utility to the top of ram above the disk controller and 
extended basic, so it started at $E000. I ran it that way until the coco3's 
came out and the patches to the basic roms in the coco3 sadly used nearly all 
that memory.

And it was such a handy little utility too, comparable to bottled beer and 
sliced bread in all around usefulness.  That was also my first experience with 
machine code, and I have to thank Jake profusely for being the teacher that he 
was.  Without him being aware of it, he was a heck of a teacher.  Sadly he 
disappeared from the coco scene, and 20 years ago Stan Viet in the Computer 
Shopper was also looking for him, but never wrote that he had been found that I 
saw in print.

The lesson I learned was that there really isn't anyplace to hide such utilities 
that someone else won't find and use in the future.  I'd already been doing 95% 
of my work in os9 level 1 version 2 by then & that just flipped the switch so 
that it was a race when I turned it on to get dos typed in before the monitor 
was warmed up enough to see it.  Now, with hdb-dos in my TC^3 controller, I 
have to type an 'F' key during a 15 second cold boot countdown, to have it run 
rsbasic, the default is nitros9 from the hard drive, now a 1GB seagate scsi on 
a tc^3 controller.

Over the years there has been an ST-238 (30 megs) on a B&B controller, then a 
Disto SC-II with a 4n1 came to live here and a Maxtor 7210s (128 megs) on it 
ran till I had to slap it around to get it started, so now its the first 500 
meg partition of a 1GB that I use, the second 500 is used for 255 virtual 
floppies with hdb-dos.  I only use rsbasic for hardware troubleshooting now.

To summarize, the original coco, coco1, (both assuming a full 64k of memory in 
them) & the coco2 can be put in the all ram mode and small utilities hidden at 
$E000 to $FEFF, but the coco3 has very little similar leftover space.

Sorry.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
The reward for working hard is more hard work.


From chawks at dls.net  Sat Jun  7 18:31:50 2008
From: chawks at dls.net (Christopher Hawks)
Date: Sat, 07 Jun 2008 17:31:50 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484B0C56.1060901@dls.net>

Fedor Steeman said the following on 06/07/2008 01:50 PM:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> What is the best area in memory to place a ML program that complements and
> can be used from BASIC? And this should go for CoCo 1/2 & 3!

Fedor:

	If it is very small ( <256 bytes ) you can place it in the cassette buffer 
(0x1da ??). But, that means no cassette I/O.

-- 
Christopher R. Hawks
HAWKSoft
---------------------------------------------------------
I never really understood how there could be things that would drive you
insane just because you knew them until I ran into Windows.
	-- Peter da Silva


From fwp at deepthought.com  Sat Jun  7 20:02:19 2008
From: fwp at deepthought.com (Frank Pittel)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:02:19 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcc956220806071150i467bd947he2bfba6eff6d2acb@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080608000218.GA4144@warlock.deepthought.com>

I don't remember where I got this from but I seem to remember a way
to reserve memory for machine language programs from within a basic
program. Seems like the best way to do it to me.

Frank

On Sat, Jun 07, 2008 at 08:50:48PM +0200, Fedor Steeman wrote:
> Hi everyone,
> 
> What is the best area in memory to place a ML program that complements and
> can be used from BASIC? And this should go for CoCo 1/2 & 3!
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> Fedor
> 
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Sat Jun  7 19:28:15 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:28:15 -0500
Subject: [Coco] 5 volt mod.
Message-ID: <20080607.182815.1372.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chris 
I picked up a 7805 5v regulator from Radio Shack. They include the
information on this 3 pin device. I hope I can find the hardware so that
I will be able to make a cable to plug into the side of the coco3 and the
other end to connect to the CF Adapter. Thanks  again for your help.

John
 
On Sat, 07 Jun 2008 09:13:08 -0500 Christopher Hawks <chawks at dls.net>
writes:
> John T Chasteen said the following on 06/06/2008 10:17 PM:
> > Chris
> > 
> > Thanks for the circuit information to obtain 5 volt DC from the 
> coco3 
> > to power the Cloud9 CF IDE Adaptor. I Googled (5 volt regulator" 
> and
> > found that Radio Shack has a 7805 5 volt regulator (Part 
> #276-1770).
> > 
> > So for I haven't figured out the polarity of the voltage that must 
> be
> > applied to the CF power connector. Hope I can find this out from 
> the CF
> > documentation. 
> 
> John:
> 
>         On the 4 pin connector on the adapter, +5 volts is the pin 
> closest to the IDE 
> connector. The middle 2 are ground. The other one (+12 volts on a 
> disk drive) 
> is probably not connected.
> 
> -- 
> Christopher R. Hawks
> HAWKSoft
> ---------------------------------------------------------
> MS-DOS is the worst text adventure game I have ever played:
> poor vocabulary, weak parser and a boring storyline.
>         --Ignatios Souvatzis
> 
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Sat Jun  7 19:40:03 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 18:40:03 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
Message-ID: <20080607.184004.1372.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

 
: Derek
Will you attach a copy of a scanned issue of the Rainbow and send to me? 
I would like to see how this file looks. I believe I have most of the
Rainbow.
If you want to continue off the list that is ok  with me  I do have a
good HP 5 function printer/scanner.
What scanner program do you use.
John
On Sat, 7 Jun 2008 08:16:43 -0700 (PDT) Derek <dml_68 at yahoo.com> writes:
> I agree. I have a few issues scanned and would not mind sharing them 
> but have thought I would get a Tandy Smack Down from the community 
> for doing so.
> 
> 
> 
> ** Mistrust Authority. Promote Decentralization **
> 
> 
>  
> 
> --- On Fri, 6/6/08, Neil Morrison &lt;neilsmorr at gmail.com&gt; 
> wrote:
> From: Neil Morrison &lt;neilsmorr at gmail.com&gt;
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" 
> &lt;coco at maltedmedia.com&gt;
> Date: Friday, June 6, 2008, 4:37 PM
> 
> IMO the legalities probably ended with the death of the publisher.
> Anyone who wants to should just go ahead. I doubt there's anyone 
> left
> who will complain.
> 
> Neil
> 
> On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 3:34 PM, Ron VanScherpe 
> &lt;rvanscherpe at gmail.com&gt;
> wrote:
> &gt; Does anyone know of a scanning project for scanning in Rainbow 
> magazine? 
> I
> &gt; know there was one mentioned a few years ago, but it seems to 
> have
> stopped.
> &gt; Anyone else doing it? If not, how might one go about doing it?  
> The
> &gt; legalities behind it
> &gt;
> &gt; Thanks.
> &gt;
> &gt; Ron.
> 
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> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
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From flexser at fiu.edu  Sat Jun  7 19:48:50 2008
From: flexser at fiu.edu (Arthur Flexser)
Date: Sat, 7 Jun 2008 19:48:50 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <20080608000218.GA4144@warlock.deepthought.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806071943120.27991-100000@solix.fiu.edu>

On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Frank Pittel wrote:

> I don't remember where I got this from but I seem to remember a way
> to reserve memory for machine language programs from within a basic
> program. Seems like the best way to do it to me.
> 
> Frank

You're thinking of the CLEAR statement:  if the ML program is at $7F00, do a
CLEAR 200,&H7F00 to protect the program from Basic and reserve the usual 200
bytes of string space just below it.  This would generally be in the first line
of any Basic program that has to coexist with the ML.

Art



From petrander at gmail.com  Sun Jun  8 00:30:44 2008
From: petrander at gmail.com (Fedor Steeman)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 06:30:44 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806071943120.27991-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
References: <20080608000218.GA4144@warlock.deepthought.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.21.0806071943120.27991-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
Message-ID: <dcc956220806072130s199ad3c7ofdbc35532c30b9cf@mail.gmail.com>

Thank you guys and especially Gene for the fascinating story. I was already
getting a feeling that all useful memory would be used up in a CoCo3.

I am not sure yet how big it would become and I need to preserve all of
BASIC, so using the cassette buffer, although an interesting suggestion,
wouldn't be it.

I think I will proceed with the CLEAR statement.

However, I wonder, if (still) only 32K would be available in Super Extended
Color Basic, what is all the memory at the bottom of RAM, supposedly 'Unused
by Basic' used for (0-5FFFF)? Maybe I can have a CoCo1/2 version reside at
E000-FEFF and a special CoCo3 version somewhere else?

Cheers,
Fedor

2008/6/8 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:

> On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Frank Pittel wrote:
>
> > I don't remember where I got this from but I seem to remember a way
> > to reserve memory for machine language programs from within a basic
> > program. Seems like the best way to do it to me.
> >
> > Frank
>
> You're thinking of the CLEAR statement:  if the ML program is at $7F00, do
> a
> CLEAR 200,&H7F00 to protect the program from Basic and reserve the usual
> 200
> bytes of string space just below it.  This would generally be in the first
> line
> of any Basic program that has to coexist with the ML.
>
> Art
>
>
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From flexser at fiu.edu  Sun Jun  8 01:34:13 2008
From: flexser at fiu.edu (Arthur Flexser)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 01:34:13 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806072130s199ad3c7ofdbc35532c30b9cf@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806080121350.29042-100000@solix.fiu.edu>

There's some space available above the end of Super Extended Basic that you
could use for the CoCo 3 version (which would also work for the CoCo 1/2 if you
copied ROM to RAM first ONLY for the earlier machines--don't do that for the
CoCo 3 or you'll knock out Super Extended Basic).  I don't have my reference
materials handy, but if your program was at $FC00 or thereabouts, that'd
probably be high enough to clear the top of Super Ext. Basic.  Perhaps someone
here could chime in with a more precise answer.  There's a character set used by
HPRINT up there somewhere, then above that is garbage you can safely overwrite.

A small correction to my earlier statement about CLEAR:  if your program is at
$7F00, you probably need to use CLEAR 200,&H7EFF--the extra byte, I believe, is
needed only for the CoCo 3.

Art

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Fedor Steeman wrote:

> Thank you guys and especially Gene for the fascinating story. I was already
> getting a feeling that all useful memory would be used up in a CoCo3.
> 
> I am not sure yet how big it would become and I need to preserve all of
> BASIC, so using the cassette buffer, although an interesting suggestion,
> wouldn't be it.
> 
> I think I will proceed with the CLEAR statement.
> 
> However, I wonder, if (still) only 32K would be available in Super Extended
> Color Basic, what is all the memory at the bottom of RAM, supposedly 'Unused
> by Basic' used for (0-5FFFF)? Maybe I can have a CoCo1/2 version reside at
> E000-FEFF and a special CoCo3 version somewhere else?
> 
> Cheers,
> Fedor
> 
> 2008/6/8 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:
> 
> > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Frank Pittel wrote:
> >
> > > I don't remember where I got this from but I seem to remember a way
> > > to reserve memory for machine language programs from within a basic
> > > program. Seems like the best way to do it to me.
> > >
> > > Frank
> >
> > You're thinking of the CLEAR statement:  if the ML program is at $7F00, do
> > a
> > CLEAR 200,&H7F00 to protect the program from Basic and reserve the usual
> > 200
> > bytes of string space just below it.  This would generally be in the first
> > line
> > of any Basic program that has to coexist with the ML.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> >
> 
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From keeper63 at cox.net  Sun Jun  8 15:25:34 2008
From: keeper63 at cox.net (Andrew)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 12:25:34 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
In-Reply-To: <mailman.15.1212933645.12230.coco@maltedmedia.com>
References: <mailman.15.1212933645.12230.coco@maltedmedia.com>
Message-ID: <484C322E.80008@cox.net>

List members: Please help me where my memory is fading...

Guys,

Please review the archive of this mailing list - I can't point you to 
when the last discussion on this was, but it was earlier this year:

   http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/coco/

As far as I remember, the state of the Rainbow Magazine scanning is 
still in limbo. Lonnie had given his blessing to have the magazine 
scanned, then re-published on DVD, so long as he received a royalty for 
each issue (it was something absurdly low for what we would have 
gotten). An individual (I can't remember his name, I think he is still 
active here) was the "liason" and scanner of the magazines. Many people 
donated magazines and he had access to a nice scanner and a method to 
separate the pages from the spine of the magazine (thus rendering them 
into individual pages and destroying the issues), so that the pages 
would go flat into the scanner for quality scans. They were scanned, 
cleaned up, ocr'ed (IIRC - for searchability), then converted to DejaVue 
format (an open-source PDF-like document publishing format). The project 
was going well.

Then Lonnie died.

His estate had little to no clue about all of this. As far as I know, 
they aren't talking to us about anything. I am imagining that this may 
all be still going through probate, although his death has been a while 
back now (or - it sadly seems that way).

The individual doing the scanning couldn't continue, and I don't 
remember where it was left. There was discussion about continuing the 
scanning by another individual, transferring the whole kit-n-kaboodle, 
but I think this was even in question, as to how the contract between 
Lonnie and the guy was written - it didn't seem that it could be 
transferred, and the estate (and/or its lawyers) didn't want to talk to 
us about it...

It's in limbo - and we don't want to jepardize its status, because you 
can bet that if we did go ahead anyhow, that same estate would 
"suddenly" figure it out and get greedy and drag us into court over 
20-30 year old magazines.

I would like an update on all of this as well. I would like an answer 
out of the estate.

I worry that a lot was lost with Lonnie's passing - not just this 
contract and all the effort behind the scanning - but also stuff we will 
never see and was likely tossed in the trash (ie, history of Falsoft and 
the Rainbow, any of Lonnies notes and other personal CoCo history, etc).

I hate being on the "long tail" of things...

-- Andrew L. Ayers, Glendale, Arizona


From brucewcalkins at charter.net  Sun Jun  8 15:59:31 2008
From: brucewcalkins at charter.net (Bruce W. Calkins)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 15:59:31 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
References: <mailman.15.1212933645.12230.coco@maltedmedia.com>
	<484C322E.80008@cox.net>
Message-ID: <9902098C725C4509917536D2118A785A@speedy>

>From my files,

Bruce W.




----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Wayne Harwood" 
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow on Disc Project


>I looked over the contract one more time and found a clause I had 
> overlooked that states that Lonnie's heirs are also bound by the 
> contract.  It also state that sixty days advance notice must be given 
> (by either party) of the cancellation of the agreement.  So the worst 
> case scenario is that if the project were completed and started to sell 
> the current owner could cancel the agreement and there would be a sixty 
> day "going out of business" sale.
> 
> I am willing to keep the agreement in place and send the resources to a 
> few volunteers to complete the project.  Once completed I will need to 
> be in charge of making sure the finished product adheres to the terms of 
> the agreement (e.g. certain specific copyright notices Lonnie 
> stipulated, not allowing sales to Thailand and a few other places, etc) 
> as well as hunting down the current copyright holder(s) to remit payment 
> per the terms of the contract.



----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Michael Wayne Harwood"
Sent: Friday, October 19, 2007 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow on Disc Project


> 1. The images have been acquired, but it's my opinion that they need to 
> be cleaned up (instructions and tools will be provided)
> 
> 2. The images need to be "published" by placing them in into either a 
> .pdf or .djvu format (Document Express software is available to the 
> project for .djvu)
> 
> 3. The "Rainbow and Tape" and "Rainbow on Disk" need to be organized
> 
> 4. The discs and associated packaging need to be generated (organized, 
> authored, burned, printed, etc) - I will need to approve the final 
> product to make sure it adheres to the terms I agreed to
> 
> 5. Someone will have to handle selling and shipping the product and 
> sending me the funds to be forwarded to the copyright holder



From jdaggett at gate.net  Sun Jun  8 16:15:17 2008
From: jdaggett at gate.net (jdaggett at gate.net)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 16:15:17 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806080121350.29042-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
References: <dcc956220806072130s199ad3c7ofdbc35532c30b9cf@mail.gmail.com>,
	<Pine.SOL.4.21.0806080121350.29042-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
Message-ID: <484C0595.30655.14515A@jdaggett.gate.net>

Art

>From $FA0C to $FDFF, about 1012 bytes. A rather small machine language 
program could fit there. The author's picture is loaded at $0E00 and is 
allocated $1800 (6144)bytes. Unless RSBASIC over writes this block is 
uncertain. It would seem to be a waste of space to me. 

james

On 8 Jun 2008 at 1:34, Arthur Flexser wrote:

> There's some space available above the end of Super Extended Basic
> that you could use for the CoCo 3 version (which would also work for
> the CoCo 1/2 if you copied ROM to RAM first ONLY for the earlier
> machines--don't do that for the CoCo 3 or you'll knock out Super
> Extended Basic).  I don't have my reference materials handy, but if
> your program was at $FC00 or thereabouts, that'd probably be high
> enough to clear the top of Super Ext. Basic.  Perhaps someone here
> could chime in with a more precise answer.  There's a character set
> used by HPRINT up there somewhere, then above that is garbage you can
> safely overwrite.
> 
> A small correction to my earlier statement about CLEAR:  if your
> program is at $7F00, you probably need to use CLEAR 200,&H7EFF--the
> extra byte, I believe, is needed only for the CoCo 3.
> 
> Art
> 
> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008, Fedor Steeman wrote:
> 
> > Thank you guys and especially Gene for the fascinating story. I was
> > already getting a feeling that all useful memory would be used up in
> > a CoCo3.
> > 
> > I am not sure yet how big it would become and I need to preserve all
> > of BASIC, so using the cassette buffer, although an interesting
> > suggestion, wouldn't be it.
> > 
> > I think I will proceed with the CLEAR statement.
> > 
> > However, I wonder, if (still) only 32K would be available in Super
> > Extended Color Basic, what is all the memory at the bottom of RAM,
> > supposedly 'Unused by Basic' used for (0-5FFFF)? Maybe I can have a
> > CoCo1/2 version reside at E000-FEFF and a special CoCo3 version
> > somewhere else?
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > Fedor
> > 
> > 2008/6/8 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:
> > 
> > > On Sat, 7 Jun 2008, Frank Pittel wrote:
> > >
> > > > I don't remember where I got this from but I seem to remember a
> > > > way to reserve memory for machine language programs from within
> > > > a basic program. Seems like the best way to do it to me.
> > > >
> > > > Frank
> > >
> > > You're thinking of the CLEAR statement:  if the ML program is at
> > > $7F00, do a CLEAR 200,&H7F00 to protect the program from Basic and
> > > reserve the usual 200 bytes of string space just below it.  This
> > > would generally be in the first line of any Basic program that has
> > > to coexist with the ML.
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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> > > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> > >
> > 
> > --
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> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> > 
> 
> 
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> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco




From operator at coco3.com  Sun Jun  8 16:51:48 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sun, 08 Jun 2008 15:51:48 -0500
Subject: [Coco] David Keil's emulators
Message-ID: <20080608205210.3106C20A33@qs281.pair.com>

I have a question concerning Keil's emulators, which includes the 
CoCo, CoCo 3, Model 4P, and Model 1, and probably his others.  I've 
noticed they all share the same interface and menus.

A problem I've encountered is that when I run any of them from a 
bootable CD or bootable USB stick, apparently I don't have the 
config.sys or autoexec.bat files set up properly because in the menus 
the characters 1-9, SPACE, and maybe a few more are trashed with 
garbage.  I assume I don't have the DOS or FreeDOS memory set up right.

I've run the emulators from both MS-DOS and FreeDOS with the same 
problem, so I assume it's the memory management or a driver loaded in 
the wrong place?

On another note, yes... I've created both a bootable CoCo emulator CD 
and bootable USB dongle (4gig).  When I boot my laptop up with the 
dongle or CD in and the BIOS set with those devices listed first, the 
system boots up into DOS or FreeDOS depending on which one I put on 
the media, and I can make autoexec.bat go right into the CoCo screen, 
but the menus are garbled as I said, with trashed 1-9 and SPACE.

Has anyone seen this font problem before, and is there a fix?

Btw, today I accomplished the CoCo-on-a-USB dongle trick and I was 
thrilled to see it working fine except for the menus.  I pulled off 
the bootable CD trick a few weeks ago.  I'd like to go forward with 
these items if I can fix the font.  Character '0' shows up fine, though.

My USB CoCo emulator is a 4gig Lexar with FreeDOS installed on 
it.  The idea is to boot with no prompts or pauses, right into the 
nuclear green screen, and perferrably running NitrOS-9 from a virtual 
hard drive filled with lots of goodies plus all the asm and rma 
development tools, but for now it is in Disk BASIC with all of the 
.dsk images from the CoCo archive DVD and all the other virtual 
images, making it the smallest CoCo emulator I know yet.  The Lexar 
dongle is about an inch past the USB prong itself and almost weightless.  Nice!

Another problem: on a laptop with a wide display, the CoCo screen is 
stretched to fill the screen, causing it to be too wide.  I haven't 
tried this on a wide LCD monitor connected to a desktop PC, but I the 
same problem is present.  Any fix for this?  There should be a 
setting in Keil's emulators somewhere (hopefully) for a no-stretch 
fit to the panel?

I really don't want to use Vavasour's emulator because it's just, 
well.. plain ugly, but I've got that on the media as well and can go 
into it manually but it reports the ROMs are incorrect or not 
present.  Due to his very nonstandard strange virtual media formats, 
I find it difficult to even work around his emulators without getting 
media mixed up with the ones for the better emulators.




From paulej at arid.us  Sun Jun  8 16:55:41 2008
From: paulej at arid.us (Paul E. Jones)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 16:55:41 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
In-Reply-To: <484C322E.80008@cox.net>
References: <mailman.15.1212933645.12230.coco@maltedmedia.com>
	<484C322E.80008@cox.net>
Message-ID: <001e01c8c9aa$037f8050$0a7e80f0$@us>

Here is one fairly recent thread:
http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/coco/2008-March/035158.html

But, Roy did not mention who the person was doing the scanning.

Roy?

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-
> bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Andrew
> Sent: Sunday, June 08, 2008 3:26 PM
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Subject: Re: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
> 
> List members: Please help me where my memory is fading...
> 
> Guys,
> 
> Please review the archive of this mailing list - I can't point you to
> when the last discussion on this was, but it was earlier this year:
> 
>    http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/coco/
> 
> As far as I remember, the state of the Rainbow Magazine scanning is
> still in limbo. Lonnie had given his blessing to have the magazine
> scanned, then re-published on DVD, so long as he received a royalty for
> each issue (it was something absurdly low for what we would have
> gotten). An individual (I can't remember his name, I think he is still
> active here) was the "liason" and scanner of the magazines. Many people
> donated magazines and he had access to a nice scanner and a method to
> separate the pages from the spine of the magazine (thus rendering them
> into individual pages and destroying the issues), so that the pages
> would go flat into the scanner for quality scans. They were scanned,
> cleaned up, ocr'ed (IIRC - for searchability), then converted to
> DejaVue
> format (an open-source PDF-like document publishing format). The
> project
> was going well.
> 
> Then Lonnie died.
> 
> His estate had little to no clue about all of this. As far as I know,
> they aren't talking to us about anything. I am imagining that this may
> all be still going through probate, although his death has been a while
> back now (or - it sadly seems that way).
> 
> The individual doing the scanning couldn't continue, and I don't
> remember where it was left. There was discussion about continuing the
> scanning by another individual, transferring the whole kit-n-kaboodle,
> but I think this was even in question, as to how the contract between
> Lonnie and the guy was written - it didn't seem that it could be
> transferred, and the estate (and/or its lawyers) didn't want to talk to
> us about it...
> 
> It's in limbo - and we don't want to jepardize its status, because you
> can bet that if we did go ahead anyhow, that same estate would
> "suddenly" figure it out and get greedy and drag us into court over
> 20-30 year old magazines.
> 
> I would like an update on all of this as well. I would like an answer
> out of the estate.
> 
> I worry that a lot was lost with Lonnie's passing - not just this
> contract and all the effort behind the scanning - but also stuff we
> will
> never see and was likely tossed in the trash (ie, history of Falsoft
> and
> the Rainbow, any of Lonnies notes and other personal CoCo history,
> etc).
> 
> I hate being on the "long tail" of things...
> 
> -- Andrew L. Ayers, Glendale, Arizona
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 




From RJRTTY at aol.com  Sun Jun  8 19:30:12 2008
From: RJRTTY at aol.com (RJRTTY at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 19:30:12 EDT
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazine
Message-ID: <d01.3187a5ef.357dc584@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 6/8/2008 4:56:48 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
paulej at arid.us writes:

Here is  one fairly recent  thread:
http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/coco/2008-March/035158.html

But,  Roy did not mention who the person was doing the  scanning.

Roy?



Well it was Micheal who did the scanning.   I donated most of  my
collection which included all issues except the last year or two.
 
I am in the dark as much as anybody about it.   Most of my  time
has been assembling and marketing my converter or I would have
done it myself.....
 
Roy
 



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From os9dude at gmail.com  Sun Jun  8 20:57:17 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 20:57:17 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Too much iced tea...
Message-ID: <5631e580806081757i764c9216h2b2364c529dc24f7@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps I have taken in a one too many glass of iced tea this weekend...
been rather mildly hot in NYC.

I was staring at the post date of a message in MySpace and it hit me that on
June 8 2009 perhaps it'd be nice to do something special for the CoCo, like
a CoCo CPU Day or something: 6/8/09

... ok, back to plain water :-)




-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From flexser at fiu.edu  Sun Jun  8 22:48:17 2008
From: flexser at fiu.edu (Arthur Flexser)
Date: Sun, 8 Jun 2008 22:48:17 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <484C0595.30655.14515A@jdaggett.gate.net>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806082246410.3205-100000@solix.fiu.edu>

On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 jdaggett at gate.net wrote:

> Art
> 
> From $FA0C to $FDFF, about 1012 bytes. A rather small machine language 
> program could fit there. The author's picture is loaded at $0E00 and is 
> allocated $1800 (6144)bytes. Unless RSBASIC over writes this block is 
> uncertain. It would seem to be a waste of space to me. 
> 
> james
> 

The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory map, as
it is always mapped out except when displayed.

Art




From petrander at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 01:52:18 2008
From: petrander at gmail.com (Fedor Steeman)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:52:18 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806082246410.3205-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
References: <484C0595.30655.14515A@jdaggett.gate.net>
	<Pine.SOL.4.21.0806082246410.3205-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
Message-ID: <dcc956220806082252g482424bfwd13c428b768d6fc6@mail.gmail.com>

> The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory
map, as
> it is always mapped out except when displayed.

Does that mean this particular space can be used for Color Basic hacks?

2008/6/9 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:

> On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 jdaggett at gate.net wrote:
>
> > Art
> >
> > From $FA0C to $FDFF, about 1012 bytes. A rather small machine language
> > program could fit there. The author's picture is loaded at $0E00 and is
> > allocated $1800 (6144)bytes. Unless RSBASIC over writes this block is
> > uncertain. It would seem to be a waste of space to me.
> >
> > james
> >
>
> The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory map,
> as
> it is always mapped out except when displayed.
>
> Art
>
>
>
> --
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> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>


From petrander at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 01:54:40 2008
From: petrander at gmail.com (Fedor Steeman)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 07:54:40 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Too much iced tea...
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806081757i764c9216h2b2364c529dc24f7@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806081757i764c9216h2b2364c529dc24f7@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <dcc956220806082254u4f74de11l93450e36747e290c@mail.gmail.com>

Ha, great idea! And in continental Europe, we can celebrate it on the 6th of
august 2009 (6-8-09) !!!

And how about 6-3-09 ?

2008/6/9 Rogelio Perea <os9dude at gmail.com>:

> Perhaps I have taken in a one too many glass of iced tea this weekend...
> been rather mildly hot in NYC.
>
> I was staring at the post date of a message in MySpace and it hit me that
> on
> June 8 2009 perhaps it'd be nice to do something special for the CoCo, like
> a CoCo CPU Day or something: 6/8/09
>
> ... ok, back to plain water :-)
>
>
>
>
> -=[ Rogelio ]=-
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>


From flexser at fiu.edu  Mon Jun  9 03:48:33 2008
From: flexser at fiu.edu (Arthur Flexser)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 03:48:33 -0400 (EDT)
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806082252g482424bfwd13c428b768d6fc6@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806090346310.4058-100000@solix.fiu.edu>

If you mean $E00, then no, that's part of the PMODE graphics area.

If you mean $FA0C-FDFF, then yes, on a CoCo 3 or on an earlier CoCo if you copy
ROM to RAM first and protect it from a reset.  

Art

On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Fedor Steeman wrote:

> > The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory
> map, as
> > it is always mapped out except when displayed.
> 
> Does that mean this particular space can be used for Color Basic hacks?
> 
> 2008/6/9 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:
> 
> > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 jdaggett at gate.net wrote:
> >
> > > Art
> > >
> > > From $FA0C to $FDFF, about 1012 bytes. A rather small machine language
> > > program could fit there. The author's picture is loaded at $0E00 and is
> > > allocated $1800 (6144)bytes. Unless RSBASIC over writes this block is
> > > uncertain. It would seem to be a waste of space to me.
> > >
> > > james
> > >
> >
> > The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory map,
> > as
> > it is always mapped out except when displayed.
> >
> > Art
> >
> >
> >
> > --
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> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> >
> 
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From petrander at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 04:17:32 2008
From: petrander at gmail.com (Fedor Steeman)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 10:17:32 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <Pine.SOL.4.21.0806090346310.4058-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
References: <dcc956220806082252g482424bfwd13c428b768d6fc6@mail.gmail.com>
	<Pine.SOL.4.21.0806090346310.4058-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
Message-ID: <dcc956220806090117k734c62bbt77b0399269f05ace@mail.gmail.com>

OK, thank you, guys! I will consider the area at $FA0C to $FDFF or use CLEAR
from some BASIC loader/poker program to free up the necessary space. A
kilobyte might actually be sufficient for what I have in mind...

Cheers.
Fedor

2008/6/9 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:

> If you mean $E00, then no, that's part of the PMODE graphics area.
>
> If you mean $FA0C-FDFF, then yes, on a CoCo 3 or on an earlier CoCo if you
> copy
> ROM to RAM first and protect it from a reset.
>
> Art
>
> On Mon, 9 Jun 2008, Fedor Steeman wrote:
>
> > > The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory
> > map, as
> > > it is always mapped out except when displayed.
> >
> > Does that mean this particular space can be used for Color Basic hacks?
> >
> > 2008/6/9 Arthur Flexser <flexser at fiu.edu>:
> >
> > > On Sun, 8 Jun 2008 jdaggett at gate.net wrote:
> > >
> > > > Art
> > > >
> > > > From $FA0C to $FDFF, about 1012 bytes. A rather small machine
> language
> > > > program could fit there. The author's picture is loaded at $0E00 and
> is
> > > > allocated $1800 (6144)bytes. Unless RSBASIC over writes this block is
> > > > uncertain. It would seem to be a waste of space to me.
> > > >
> > > > james
> > > >
> > >
> > > The picture is wasted space in the internal ROM, but not in the memory
> map,
> > > as
> > > it is always mapped out except when displayed.
> > >
> > > Art
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
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From Torsten at Dittel.info  Mon Jun  9 04:42:49 2008
From: Torsten at Dittel.info (Torsten Dittel)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 10:42:49 +0200
Subject: [Coco] Suggested RAM area for ML program to be used from BASIC?
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806090117k734c62bbt77b0399269f05ace@mail.gmail.com>
References: <dcc956220806082252g482424bfwd13c428b768d6fc6@mail.gmail.com>	<Pine.SOL.4.21.0806090346310.4058-100000@solix.fiu.edu>
	<dcc956220806090117k734c62bbt77b0399269f05ace@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <g2iqeb$rgg$1@ger.gmane.org>

Fedor Steeman schrieb:
> A kilobyte might actually be sufficient for what I have in mind...

I darkly remember I used strings to store and access smaller ML routines 
from within BASIC (<25x bytes). Those could be either EXECuted or 
accessed via the USR-function by providing the string varaible's storage 
address within string space using PEEK and VARPTR. Would have to look up 
the details...

Regards,
Torsten



From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun  9 08:06:34 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 08:06:34 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Too much iced tea...
In-Reply-To: <dcc956220806082254u4f74de11l93450e36747e290c@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806081757i764c9216h2b2364c529dc24f7@mail.gmail.com>
	<dcc956220806082254u4f74de11l93450e36747e290c@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5631e580806090506s601aaa48j36b51dd178424d5c@mail.gmail.com>

You're right!, Mexico (and South America) follows the day/month/year format
as in Europe so that's another date there...


On Mon, Jun 9, 2008 at 1:54 AM, Fedor Steeman <petrander at gmail.com> wrote:

> Ha, great idea! And in continental Europe, we can celebrate it on the 6th
> of
> august 2009 (6-8-09) !!!
>
> And how about 6-3-09 ?
>
> 2008/6/9 Rogelio Perea <os9dude at gmail.com>:
>
> > Perhaps I have taken in a one too many glass of iced tea this weekend...
> > been rather mildly hot in NYC.
> >
> > I was staring at the post date of a message in MySpace and it hit me that
> > on
> > June 8 2009 perhaps it'd be nice to do something special for the CoCo,
> like
> > a CoCo CPU Day or something: 6/8/09
> >
> > ... ok, back to plain water :-)
>


From MRCoCo123 at msn.com  Mon Jun  9 12:40:20 2008
From: MRCoCo123 at msn.com (Mike Kandrac)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 12:40:20 -0400
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE   :)     (URGENT POST NEEDED)
Message-ID: <BAY114-DAV127788A12F6740CCDAA0EEEAB00@phx.gbl>

To ALL CONCERNED Members the rights of the project of this magazine on DVD were Given to Mr. Harwood  who passed the project on to me to finish and return to him this project is on ICE because.

 No One seems to have an extra copy of May of 1983 and and June of 1992 to sell for this project I would prefer to buy someone's extra copy due to the age. 

I have been outbid several times up to 30.00 for one of the issues if you choose to donate an extra issue that would be nice also but being I can not promise a time frame as to how long it will take to get an approval from the estate and Mr. Harwood as to getting this rolling 

Sincerely
Mike 


From RJRTTY at aol.com  Mon Jun  9 17:32:12 2008
From: RJRTTY at aol.com (RJRTTY at aol.com)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 17:32:12 EDT
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE   :)     (URGENT POST NEEDED)
Message-ID: <cb3.337b3069.357efb5c@aol.com>

 
In a message dated 6/9/2008 12:41:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
MRCoCo123 at msn.com writes:

No One  seems to have an extra copy of May of 1983 and and June of 1992 to 
sell for  this project I would prefer to buy someone's extra copy due to the 
age.  




I don't think there is a May 1983.   Due to some "adjustment" to  release
dates of the magazine they skipped May 1983.    I had all  issues from
the beginning until about 1992 and there was no May 1983 issue.
They jumped from April 1983 to June 1983.
 
Roy
 



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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jun  9 18:36:30 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 18:36:30 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Need assembly guru (I _thought_ I was  half of one)
Message-ID: <200806091836.30101.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

Greetings all;

I'm trying to get the mouse and hardware that worked 15 years ago to work again, 
but under the new nitros9-3.2.8 regime.

I don't know if I have bad hardware (the extra acia for the mouse in my deluxe 
rs-232 pack)  or what.  But the symptoms from a software view are that bit d3 
in the status register is stuck high, as is probably the IRQ flag but I haven't 
double checked that as its moot in trying to get the chip setup to receive only 
from a Logitek "DexXa' 3 button mouse.

When power to the mouse is cycled by resetting the acia, then re-enabling it, 
the mouse spits out its ID bytes, and in fact this one lies about it, claiming 
to be a 3 button M$ mouse, but there is a protocol difference.  The M$ mouse 
sends an empty packet for a middle button down event, the logitek sends a 4th 
byte with a single active bit to indicate the button down and button up events 
only for the center button.  And only sends it for the center button.  However, 
that is a down the road problem to solve once I get the mouse handshaking 
working.

Here is a snippet of the code:

ClrACIA  ldx   M$Mem,pcr  get base hardware address again
         clra
         clrb
         std   CmdReg,x  full hdwe reset
* loads $0918, $09 to CmdReg=tx irq dis, no par, tx low
* $18 to CtrlReg= 1200 baud 1 stop
         ldd   #(TIC.RTS!Cmd.DTR)*256+(DB.8!Ctl.RClk!BR.01200) 
* [D]=command:control
         std   CmdReg,x   set command and control registers
* do 80 instant reads for trash collection
* and clear status of Stat.RxF bits
         ldb   #$50
flshinit lda   DataReg,x throw it away
         lda   StatReg,x throw it away
         decb
         bne   flshinit
* that kills most of the 14 milliseconds
* to the mouses first response byte
* now, lets see what mouse we have
         pshs  y
         ldy   #$00D0 set dly to fail
NxtByte  leay  -1,y  start cntr
         beq   NxtBExit was InitErr, do 208 times, let it fail
* more time delay
         lda   #$00
NxtDly   deca
         bne   NxtDly
* is something screwing with x?
* shouldn't need this, probably not needed
         ldx   M$Mem,pcr reload x
         lda   StatReg,x  RxF,ovfl,fram,par
         anda  Pkt.Mask,pcr narrow to lower nibble
* then check for rx buff full
         tsta  Stat.RxF  set z flag if d3=0
         beq   NxtByte z flag set, try again
* show status as arrive here
         pshs  a,b,x,u,y,cc,dp
         adda  #'0 make lower nibble printable
         jsr   <D.BtBug prints char in reg a on boot screen
         puls  a,b,x,u,y,cc,dp
* got a data byte, get, show
         lda   DataReg,x get ID byte
         pshs  a,b,x,u,y,cc,dp
         jsr   <D.BtBug what was it?
         puls  a,b,x,u,y,cc,dp
         bra   NxtByte  there may be 2

* temp stopper so I can read screen
NxtBExit puls  y fix stack
* show we're here
         lda   #'S
         jsr   <D.BtBug show the S so I know its here
letmesee bra letmesee
----------------------
This outputs 8,_,8,M,8,3, and the final S to the boot screen.

The 8's are the status register, saying that the rx buffer is full and I should 
read the data, and the rest "_M3" is from the RxData of the 6551.

This almost looks good, but whats the '_'?  As I can see on my scope, the mouse 
is only sending 2 bytes unless the chip is reading the powerup transient too 
fast, & its already been read more than 80 times at the point I start showing 
data.  But, the data can be read from the chip in a repeat stream until 
overwritten by the next byte from the mouse.  The point here is that even after 
80 reads, that status byte still says there is data to be read.  It is supposed 
to be reset by the read, and apparently is not.  Or is my code funkity?  Blast 
away at it folks. :)

I would like to use the "M3" as a validator that the right mouse is hooked up, 
but this one looks like it is lying, as that should ID a 3 byte packet M$ 
mouse.

Ideas anybody?

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
McDonald's -- Because you're worth it.


From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Mon Jun  9 22:24:43 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:24:43 -0400
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE   :)     (URGENT POST NEEDED)
In-Reply-To: <cb3.337b3069.357efb5c@aol.com>
References: <cb3.337b3069.357efb5c@aol.com>
Message-ID: <004001c8caa1$24ed0e40$6ec72ac0$@com>

This is true...At the time, all computer magazines had cover dates for the
month after they were released.  Rainbow released with a cover date for the
month of release.  There is a write up about it in the June 1983 issue
explaining why they skipped the May cover date.

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of RJRTTY at aol.com
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 5:32 PM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: Re: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE :) (URGENT POST NEEDED)

 
In a message dated 6/9/2008 12:41:37 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  
MRCoCo123 at msn.com writes:

No One  seems to have an extra copy of May of 1983 and and June of 1992 to 
sell for  this project I would prefer to buy someone's extra copy due to the

age.  




I don't think there is a May 1983.   Due to some "adjustment" to  release
dates of the magazine they skipped May 1983.    I had all  issues from
the beginning until about 1992 and there was no May 1983 issue.
They jumped from April 1983 to June 1983.
 
Roy
 



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From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Mon Jun  9 22:27:27 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Mon, 9 Jun 2008 22:27:27 -0400
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE   :)     (URGENT POST NEEDED)
In-Reply-To: <BAY114-DAV127788A12F6740CCDAA0EEEAB00@phx.gbl>
References: <BAY114-DAV127788A12F6740CCDAA0EEEAB00@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <004101c8caa1$86ca2800$945e7800$@com>

I have all but the first issue and everything after September 1991.  I am
sure there is someone who has a copy somewhere.

Based on what you wrote...is everything done except the June 1992 issue?
May 1983 does not exist as posted previously...

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Mike Kandrac
Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:40 PM
To: coco
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE :) (URGENT POST NEEDED)

To ALL CONCERNED Members the rights of the project of this magazine on DVD
were Given to Mr. Harwood  who passed the project on to me to finish and
return to him this project is on ICE because.

 No One seems to have an extra copy of May of 1983 and and June of 1992 to
sell for this project I would prefer to buy someone's extra copy due to the
age. 

I have been outbid several times up to 30.00 for one of the issues if you
choose to donate an extra issue that would be nice also but being I can not
promise a time frame as to how long it will take to get an approval from the
estate and Mr. Harwood as to getting this rolling 

Sincerely
Mike 

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From robert.gault at worldnet.att.net  Mon Jun  9 23:48:00 2008
From: robert.gault at worldnet.att.net (Robert Gault)
Date: Mon, 09 Jun 2008 23:48:00 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Need assembly guru (I _thought_ I was  half of one)
In-Reply-To: <200806091836.30101.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <200806091836.30101.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <484DF970.8010202@worldnet.att.net>

Try a Soft Reset of the 6551 which requires writing to the Status 
register, ex. sta StatReg,x
It doesn't matter what the value of regA is because no data is 
transfered at that address.


From os9dude at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 11:39:29 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
Message-ID: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527

Just read through the whole thing...




-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From zootzoot at cfl.rr.com  Tue Jun 10 11:50:56 2008
From: zootzoot at cfl.rr.com (Stephen Castello)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:50:56 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <ij8t449aasikip0vuc21p0mk7bl2m15ol2@4ax.com>

On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400, "Rogelio Perea"
<os9dude at gmail.com> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:

>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
>
>Just read through the whole thing...
>

The listed specs are a bit off.

Stephen
-- 


From georgeramsower at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 12:27:04 2008
From: georgeramsower at gmail.com (George Ramsower)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:27:04 -0500
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
References: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <001701c8cb16$d236b9a0$d4b1b1d8@house>

That made me chuckle....
IBM comapatible? Not in THIS lifetime
network card? Only a controller is shown

Then I noticed it's a CC3 in the photo.

 I wonder if he has more of what is clouding his mind.... sounds like fun to 
me!

As it stands, a CC3, MPI, dual drive system and a CM-8 monitor would be a 
good start for anyone.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Rogelio Perea" <os9dude at gmail.com>
To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 10:39 AM
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay


> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
>
> Just read through the whole thing...
>
>
>
>
> -=[ Rogelio ]=-
>
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From mark at cloud9tech.com  Tue Jun 10 12:28:08 2008
From: mark at cloud9tech.com (Mark Marlette)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:28:08 -0500
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <ij8t449aasikip0vuc21p0mk7bl2m15ol2@4ax.com>
References: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<ij8t449aasikip0vuc21p0mk7bl2m15ol2@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>


Feedback of ZERO, also look at the shipping costs to the US.



Quoting Stephen Castello <zootzoot at cfl.rr.com>:

> On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400, "Rogelio Perea"
> <os9dude at gmail.com> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
>>
>> Just read through the whole thing...
>>
>
> The listed specs are a bit off.
>
> Stephen
> --
>
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From jlhickle at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 12:52:40 2008
From: jlhickle at yahoo.com (Jim Hickle)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 09:52:40 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>
Message-ID: <17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

I asked them if IBM compatibility meant the colors match.

Dey no reespond yet...


--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com> wrote:

> From: Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:28 PM
> Feedback of ZERO, also look at the shipping costs to the US.
> 
> 
> 
> Quoting Stephen Castello <zootzoot at cfl.rr.com>:
> 
> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400, "Rogelio
> Perea"
> > <os9dude at gmail.com> had a flock of green cheek
> conures squawk out:
> >
> >>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
> >>
> >> Just read through the whole thing...
> >>
> >
> > The listed specs are a bit off.
> >
> > Stephen
> > --
> >
> > --
> > Coco mailing list
> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> >
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From mdelyea at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 13:23:09 2008
From: mdelyea at gmail.com (mike delyea)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:23:09 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>
	<17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <1b52e6c80806101023u27908e10k7af3ed1fbc31c07e@mail.gmail.com>

Its obviously a scam.  For one thing that pic is also on the Wikipedia article.

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 12:52 PM, Jim Hickle <jlhickle at yahoo.com> wrote:
> I asked them if IBM compatibility meant the colors match.
>
> Dey no reespond yet...
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com> wrote:
>
>> From: Mark Marlette <mark at cloud9tech.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
>> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
>> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 12:28 PM
>> Feedback of ZERO, also look at the shipping costs to the US.
>>
>>
>>
>> Quoting Stephen Castello <zootzoot at cfl.rr.com>:
>>
>> > On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400, "Rogelio
>> Perea"
>> > <os9dude at gmail.com> had a flock of green cheek
>> conures squawk out:
>> >
>> >>
>> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
>> >>
>> >> Just read through the whole thing...
>> >>
>> >
>> > The listed specs are a bit off.
>> >
>> > Stephen
>> > --
>> >
>> > --
>> > Coco mailing list
>> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
>> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>> >
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>
>
>
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From lamune at doki-doki.net  Tue Jun 10 13:37:38 2008
From: lamune at doki-doki.net (Mike Pepe)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:37:38 -0700
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <1b52e6c80806101023u27908e10k7af3ed1fbc31c07e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>	<17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1b52e6c80806101023u27908e10k7af3ed1fbc31c07e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <484EBBE2.3060801@doki-doki.net>

mike delyea wrote:
> Its obviously a scam.  For one thing that pic is also on the Wikipedia article.
> 

Yes, of my setup. And I'm not selling it :)

I like my gray-front 360k drives. Matches the keyboard surround nicely.


From jlhickle at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 13:37:51 2008
From: jlhickle at yahoo.com (Jim Hickle)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 10:37:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <171544.81917.qm@web36607.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dear jimhickle,

some of the components of the older model dell and IBM are compatable for parts and repair.

- twinpeeks34



--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Rogelio Perea <os9dude at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rogelio Perea <os9dude at gmail.com>
> Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> To: "coco at maltedmedia.com" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 11:39 AM
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
> 
> Just read through the whole thing...
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -=[ Rogelio ]=-
> 
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From georgeramsower at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 14:57:25 2008
From: georgeramsower at gmail.com (George Ramsower)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:57:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
References: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>	<17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com><1b52e6c80806101023u27908e10k7af3ed1fbc31c07e@mail.gmail.com>
	<484EBBE2.3060801@doki-doki.net>
Message-ID: <003f01c8cb2b$d32022b0$d4b1b1d8@house>

 I didn't know this was your photo. As I studied that ad further, I noticed 
he claimed a modem, a network card amd that it had a Celeron processor.
 I sent a message about all of it to him and told him that if that ad was 
there tomorrow, I would report him to eBay and they would remove it for him.

  I'm glad you folks are watching this stuff.

  I wonder how much of this sort of thing occurs on eBay. This is sad.


George

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Mike Pepe" <lamune at doki-doki.net>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Tuesday, June 10, 2008 12:37 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay


> mike delyea wrote:
>> Its obviously a scam.  For one thing that pic is also on the Wikipedia 
>> article.
>>
>
> Yes, of my setup. And I'm not selling it :)
>
> I like my gray-front 360k drives. Matches the keyboard surround nicely.
>
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From rod.barnhart at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 15:03:15 2008
From: rod.barnhart at gmail.com (Rod Barnhart)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:03:15 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <003f01c8cb2b$d32022b0$d4b1b1d8@house>
References: <20080610112808.tno77r80gcsk0wo0@webmail.frontiernet.net>
	<17498.34351.qm@web36603.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<1b52e6c80806101023u27908e10k7af3ed1fbc31c07e@mail.gmail.com>
	<484EBBE2.3060801@doki-doki.net>
	<003f01c8cb2b$d32022b0$d4b1b1d8@house>
Message-ID: <6cd9b02e0806101203k2be5fbffjea9ce7f5b240d0bd@mail.gmail.com>

On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM, George Ramsower
<georgeramsower at gmail.com> wrote:
>  I wonder how much of this sort of thing occurs on eBay. This is sad.

Even sadder - the guy probably believes his listing is accurate.

--
Rod Barnhart


From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jun 10 15:09:54 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:09:54 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <ij8t449aasikip0vuc21p0mk7bl2m15ol2@4ax.com>
References: <5631e580806100839r3ed4eb56l712e6e90e03528ad@mail.gmail.com>
	<ij8t449aasikip0vuc21p0mk7bl2m15ol2@4ax.com>
Message-ID: <200806101509.55090.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Stephen Castello wrote:
>On Tue, 10 Jun 2008 11:39:29 -0400, "Rogelio Perea"
>
><os9dude at gmail.com> had a flock of green cheek conures squawk out:
>>http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280234897527
>>
>>Just read through the whole thing...
>
>The listed specs are a bit off.
>
>Stephen

Nahhh, whodathunkit.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Egotist:  A person of low taste, more interested in himself than in me.
-- Ambrose Bierce


From tonym at compusource.net  Tue Jun 10 15:24:57 2008
From: tonym at compusource.net (tonym)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 19:24:57 GMT
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
Message-ID: <20080610152485.SM15416@[63.69.23.239]>

>-----Original Message-----
>From: George Ramsower georgeramsower at gmail.com
>Sent 6/10/2008 2:57:25 PM
>To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts coco at maltedmedia.com
>Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
>
> I didn't know this was your photo. As I studied that ad further, I noticed 
>he claimed a modem, a network card amd that it had a Celeron processor.
> I sent a message about all of it to him and told him that if that ad was 
>there tomorrow, I would report him to eBay and they would remove it for him.
>

Also, for me, it shows $10.99 shipping with UPS 3-Day Select.
Now, from Colorado to Florida, shipping even the CC3 for $10.99 would be tough, much less the
CM-8, FDD, and MPI added on!


Tony

From sklammer at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 15:44:07 2008
From: sklammer at gmail.com (Shain Klammer)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:44:07 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <20080610152485.SM15416@63.69.23.239>
References: <20080610152485.SM15416@63.69.23.239>
Message-ID: <3925f0b0806101244k51c158e8o62c2d9d09049982b@mail.gmail.com>

I agree, its cheap, I personally dislike auctions which
have shipping/handling/postage that are wholy unrealistic and overtly
expensive in order to try and hide their hope that no one would notice that
the $2 auction win costs $52.

This appears to be first-time seller, from a small town who claims to be
helping someone else out.  The seller used a non-representative picture
- well perhaps the seller doesn't have a scanner, digital camera, or
*even* access to the stuff...  yes, it would have been nice for the seller
to say so; but, is that unique in eBay?

Wouldn't it be easier/kinder/nicer to offer some help by pointing out their
mistakes before sending in the authorities?  Certainly enough emails have
been sent through here about it...

sk

2008/6/10 tonym <tonym at compusource.net>:

> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: George Ramsower georgeramsower at gmail.com
> >Sent 6/10/2008 2:57:25 PM
> >To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts coco at maltedmedia.com
> >Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> >
> > I didn't know this was your photo. As I studied that ad further, I
> noticed
> >he claimed a modem, a network card amd that it had a Celeron processor.
> > I sent a message about all of it to him and told him that if that ad was
> >there tomorrow, I would report him to eBay and they would remove it for
> him.
> >
>
> Also, for me, it shows $10.99 shipping with UPS 3-Day Select.
> Now, from Colorado to Florida, shipping even the CC3 for $10.99 would be
> tough, much less the
> CM-8, FDD, and MPI added on!
>
>
> Tony
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>
>


From ktailor01 at lineone.net  Tue Jun 10 15:45:01 2008
From: ktailor01 at lineone.net (Kish Tailor)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:45:01 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <20080610152485.SM15416@[63.69.23.239]>
References: <20080610152485.SM15416@[63.69.23.239]>
Message-ID: <484ED9BD.6000305@lineone.net>

The listing is a scam. I also sell on Ebay. To ship this item to the 
USA, you'll be looking at $50 for expedited post.

tonym wrote:

>>
> 
> Also, for me, it shows $10.99 shipping with UPS 3-Day Select.
> Now, from Colorado to Florida, shipping even the CC3 for $10.99 would be tough, much less the
> CM-8, FDD, and MPI added on!
> 
> 
> Tony


From jlhickle at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 16:21:22 2008
From: jlhickle at yahoo.com (Jim Hickle)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 13:21:22 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <3925f0b0806101244k51c158e8o62c2d9d09049982b@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <105625.5505.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>


Don't fall for the lie that there is good in all people.


--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Shain Klammer <sklammer at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Shain Klammer <sklammer at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 3:44 PM
> I agree, its cheap, I personally dislike auctions which
> have shipping/handling/postage that are wholy unrealistic
> and overtly
> expensive in order to try and hide their hope that no one
> would notice that
> the $2 auction win costs $52.
> 
> This appears to be first-time seller, from a small town who
> claims to be
> helping someone else out.  The seller used a
> non-representative picture
> - well perhaps the seller doesn't have a scanner,
> digital camera, or
> *even* access to the stuff...  yes, it would have been nice
> for the seller
> to say so; but, is that unique in eBay?
> 
> Wouldn't it be easier/kinder/nicer to offer some help
> by pointing out their
> mistakes before sending in the authorities?  Certainly
> enough emails have
> been sent through here about it...
> 
> sk
> 



      


From sklammer at gmail.com  Tue Jun 10 16:47:11 2008
From: sklammer at gmail.com (Shain Klammer)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 16:47:11 -0400
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <105625.5505.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <3925f0b0806101244k51c158e8o62c2d9d09049982b@mail.gmail.com>
	<105625.5505.qm@web36606.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <3925f0b0806101347i71d3cdc3t7e93615ea55b89ef@mail.gmail.com>

I would like to think that not everyone has evil intentions...

sk

2008/6/10 Jim Hickle <jlhickle at yahoo.com>:

>
> Don't fall for the lie that there is good in all people.
>
>
> --- On Tue, 6/10/08, Shain Klammer <sklammer at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > From: Shain Klammer <sklammer at gmail.com>
> > Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> > To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> > Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 3:44 PM
> > I agree, its cheap, I personally dislike auctions which
> > have shipping/handling/postage that are wholy unrealistic
> > and overtly
> > expensive in order to try and hide their hope that no one
> > would notice that
> > the $2 auction win costs $52.
> >
> > This appears to be first-time seller, from a small town who
> > claims to be
> > helping someone else out.  The seller used a
> > non-representative picture
> > - well perhaps the seller doesn't have a scanner,
> > digital camera, or
> > *even* access to the stuff...  yes, it would have been nice
> > for the seller
> > to say so; but, is that unique in eBay?
> >
> > Wouldn't it be easier/kinder/nicer to offer some help
> > by pointing out their
> > mistakes before sending in the authorities?  Certainly
> > enough emails have
> > been sent through here about it...
> >
> > sk
> >
>
>
>
>
>
>  --
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>


From jlhickle at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 10 17:12:55 2008
From: jlhickle at yahoo.com (Jim Hickle)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 14:12:55 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
In-Reply-To: <6cd9b02e0806101203k2be5fbffjea9ce7f5b240d0bd@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <348538.24937.qm@web36608.mail.mud.yahoo.com>




--- On Tue, 6/10/08, Rod Barnhart <rod.barnhart at gmail.com> wrote:

> From: Rod Barnhart <rod.barnhart at gmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] An intriguing one at Ebay
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Date: Tuesday, June 10, 2008, 3:03 PM
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:57 PM, George Ramsower
> <georgeramsower at gmail.com> wrote:
> >  I wonder how much of this sort of thing occurs on
> eBay. This is sad.
> 
> Even sadder - the guy probably believes his listing is
> accurate.
> 

No more than this one thinks he's actually selling a trombone:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Rare-exquisite-brass-Dragon-Trombone_W0QQitemZ110259148889



      


From MRCoCo123 at msn.com  Tue Jun 10 17:42:44 2008
From: MRCoCo123 at msn.com (Mike Kandrac)
Date: Tue, 10 Jun 2008 17:42:44 -0400
Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE :) (URGENT POST NEEDED) II
References: <BAY114-DAV127788A12F6740CCDAA0EEEAB00@phx.gbl>
	<004101c8caa1$86ca2800$945e7800$@com>
Message-ID: <BAY114-DAV11320A99EF7ED99602EA8FEAB30@phx.gbl>

All is finished as to the magazine portion of it the rainbow on tap/Disk was to be included as well but I haven't got an answer as to weather he sent it to me or not Yet im still emailing him for the location of that I have been working trying to clean the magazine up more plus a few pages had to be rescanned due to the fact the images were black or the other side of the page was coming throu . I am still going over the issues I have but if all goes well I should have it on its way back to him by the earliest say next month provided the other issue turns up 

At least the Magazine will be done. 

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Tom Seagrove<mailto:tjseagrove at writeme.com> 
  To: 'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'<mailto:coco at maltedmedia.com> 
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 10:27 PM
  Subject: Re: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE :) (URGENT POST NEEDED)


  I have all but the first issue and everything after September 1991.  I am
  sure there is someone who has a copy somewhere.

  Based on what you wrote...is everything done except the June 1992 issue?
  May 1983 does not exist as posted previously...

  Tom

  -----Original Message-----
  From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com<mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com> [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
  Behalf Of Mike Kandrac
  Sent: Monday, June 09, 2008 12:40 PM
  To: coco
  Subject: [Coco] RAINBOW MAGIZINE UPDATE :) (URGENT POST NEEDED)

  To ALL CONCERNED Members the rights of the project of this magazine on DVD
  were Given to Mr. Harwood  who passed the project on to me to finish and
  return to him this project is on ICE because.

   No One seems to have an extra copy of May of 1983 and and June of 1992 to
  sell for this project I would prefer to buy someone's extra copy due to the
  age. 

  I have been outbid several times up to 30.00 for one of the issues if you
  choose to donate an extra issue that would be nice also but being I can not
  promise a time frame as to how long it will take to get an approval from the
  estate and Mr. Harwood as to getting this rolling 

  Sincerely
  Mike 

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From devries.bob at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 00:00:48 2008
From: devries.bob at gmail.com (Bob Devries)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:00:48 +0800
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba><200806031219.15754.gene.heskett@verizon.net><20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com><8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
	<20080606225940.072BE20A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <002e01c8cb77$bd6a5bb0$2800a8c0@toshiba>

Hey, Roger,
One of Catherine's sisters is available. Her name is Josephine. She's 
widowed, and 28 years old, and has a daughter 7 years old.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger Taylor" <operator at coco3.com>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:59 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream


> At 05:45 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote:
>>Sorry, guys.
>>Please try this link:
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
>>
>>Hope that works for you.
>
>
> She's gorgeous, Bob.  Hook me up with one of her cousins?  :)
>
> Just some newly wed fun,
> On the beard removal...
> for any Pirates of Silicon Valley fans,
>
> "uh, where's your beard?"
> Bob -> "I shaved it off"
> "why?"
> Bob -> "because brides don't like beards (Bob is holding a circuit board 
> at this time, examining the chips)"
>
> Hehe.  Yea, you cool cat, that took about '30 years' off your life (just 
> kidding)!
>
> Anyway, I wish you the best, man!
>
>
>
> --
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> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco 



From devries.bob at gmail.com  Wed Jun 11 00:12:33 2008
From: devries.bob at gmail.com (Bob Devries)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:12:33 +0800
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba><20080603212849.C8FDF20A36@qs281.pair.com><8af15320806060345u425360g378db351ca73d42c@mail.gmail.com>
	<200806061103.58429.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <004701c8cb7c$d4f294f0$2800a8c0@toshiba>

Gene, Only one is "attached" to Catherine. He's Carl Nino, and he's just 2 
years old. You'll see him in a couple of pictures with Catherine and I. The 
others are sister and nephews and nieces.

I'm hoping to adopt Carl as my own son.
Also, I'm hoping to bring Catherine and Carl to Australia, at least for a 
holiday, and then try to make her a citizen.

I also want to be a citizen of Philippines, if possible; taking on dual 
citizenship.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Gene Heskett" <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Friday, June 06, 2008 11:03 PM
Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream


> On Friday 06 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>>Sorry, guys.
>>Please try this link:
>>
>>http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
>>
>>Hope that works for you.
>>
>>On 6/4/08, Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:
>>> At 11:19 AM 6/3/2008, you wrote:
>>>> On Tuesday 03 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>>>> >Here's a link to my Flikr Photostream. It has pictures of my wedding 
>>>> >to
>>>> > Catherine.
>>>> >
>>>> >http://www.flickr.com/welcome/30250495/975516/
>
> That's MUCH better.  How many of the children there came with Catherine?
>
> -- 
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
> soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Dawn, n.:
> The time when men of reason go to bed.
> -- Ambrose Bierce, "The Devil's Dictionary"
>
> --
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Wed Jun 11 06:41:30 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 06:41:30 -0400
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
In-Reply-To: <004701c8cb7c$d4f294f0$2800a8c0@toshiba>
References: <003b01c8c55e$1dc2ea10$2800a8c0@toshiba>
	<200806061103.58429.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
	<004701c8cb7c$d4f294f0$2800a8c0@toshiba>
Message-ID: <200806110641.30310.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Wednesday 11 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>Gene, Only one is "attached" to Catherine. He's Carl Nino, and he's just 2
>years old. You'll see him in a couple of pictures with Catherine and I. The
>others are sister and nephews and nieces.
>
>I'm hoping to adopt Carl as my own son.

Well, you are now committed to that role regardless, a role I've assumed twice 
for a total of 5 because they came with the woman.  I won't say I did it well, 
but that was long ago and far away.  Those that survive are long since adults, 
MD and CP were involved, so 2 have passed, 2 are long out of touch.  The 5th 
one left at 16, sick of his mother, and is over in Maryland doing takeoffs for 
a large electrical contractor and may not call for a year at a time.  With 11 
kids that have sat at my table over the years, he, and 4 boys 1200 miles west 
in Nebraska are the ones that still keep in touch.  The two girls I fathered 
have both passed from cancer now, the last one just this past November.

>Also, I'm hoping to bring Catherine and Carl to Australia, at least for a
>holiday, and then try to make her a citizen.

I was under the impression you had roots in Au land that would be hard to pull 
up.

>I also want to be a citizen of Philippines, if possible; taking on dual
>citizenship.

Sounds ambitious, best wishes and good luck to you all.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Arguments are extremely vulgar, for everyone in good society holds exactly
the same opinion.
		-- Oscar Wilde


From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Wed Jun 11 12:43:38 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Wed, 11 Jun 2008 11:43:38 -0500
Subject: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
Message-ID: <20080611.114339.2508.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Good Morning Bob
I sure appreciate your sharing your life on the coco List. If you gave us
the info. on how you met your new bride, I missed that e-mail.

How did you meet? Is the language much of a problem?
Will you be employed in the Philippines? 

I wish you many happy years with your new family.

God Bless
John Chasteen 
On Wed, 11 Jun 2008 12:00:48 +0800 "Bob Devries" <devries.bob at gmail.com>
writes:
> Hey, Roger,
> One of Catherine's sisters is available. Her name is Josephine. 
> She's 
> widowed, and 28 years old, and has a daughter 7 years old.
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Roger Taylor" <operator at coco3.com>
> To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" 
> <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Sent: Saturday, June 07, 2008 6:59 AM
> Subject: Re: [Coco] My Flikr wedding photostream
> 
> 
> > At 05:45 AM 6/6/2008, you wrote:
> >>Sorry, guys.
> >>Please try this link:
> >>
> >>http://www.flickr.com/search/?q=bob+cathy+wedding&m=text
> >>
> >>Hope that works for you.
> >
> >
> > She's gorgeous, Bob.  Hook me up with one of her cousins?  :)
> >
> > Just some newly wed fun,
> > On the beard removal...
> > for any Pirates of Silicon Valley fans,
> >
> > "uh, where's your beard?"
> > Bob -> "I shaved it off"
> > "why?"
> > Bob -> "because brides don't like beards (Bob is holding a circuit 
> board 
> > at this time, examining the chips)"
> >
> > Hehe.  Yea, you cool cat, that took about '30 years' off your life 
> (just 
> > kidding)!
> >
> > Anyway, I wish you the best, man!
> >
> >
> >
> > --
> > Coco mailing list
> > Coco at maltedmedia.com
> > http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco 
> 
> 
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From os9dude at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 11:54:53 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 11:54:53 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
Message-ID: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>

All in good jest of course...

Found this one today on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260250585412

Besides the pricey starting bid (although I know a few of us would pay top
for something CoCo we may deem as unable to let go), the one thing that
strikes me from some Ebay vendors is the undiscriminating way of the use
RARE... or MINT like on this one.

How about a litlle dust-off before taking the pictures? Poor thing looks
like it was just taken out of storage...

Of calling something as 'mint' when there are obvious problems like a
missing cassette player door... must be the 'optional' bit thrown in there.

Oh well. One more spot on the tiger.



-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From hmshrigley at juno.com  Thu Jun 12 14:11:16 2008
From: hmshrigley at juno.com (hmshrigley at juno.com)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:11:16 GMT
Subject: [Coco] this gury must be something else
Message-ID: <20080612.131116.26586.0@webmail05.dca.untd.com>

Where does this guy cme up with the whole amount of money for this product?
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Thu Jun 12 15:09:57 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:09:57 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco fest check
Message-ID: <20080612.140957.2928.5.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Steve Bjork

Do you plan on cashing the check I wrote to you at the coco fest

for a program you were going to mail to me?

John Chasteen
950 Chelsea Lane
Schaumburg, IL 60193
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From tonym at compusource.net  Thu Jun 12 15:22:06 2008
From: tonym at compusource.net (tonym)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:22:06 GMT
Subject: [Coco] coco fest check
Message-ID: <200806121522593.SM03824@[63.69.23.239]>

Was it really necessary to air that out in public?

I mean - if he had CASHED your check, and sent nothing, well, MAYBE....

But no loss, no harm, no foul?


Tony 
-----Original Message-----
From: John T Chasteen johnchasteen.2 at juno.com
Sent 6/12/2008 3:09:57 PM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: [Coco] coco fest check

Steve Bjork

Do you plan on cashing the check I wrote to you at the coco fest

for a program you were going to mail to me?

John Chasteen
950 Chelsea Lane
Schaumburg, IL 60193
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From tonym at compusource.net  Thu Jun 12 15:25:04 2008
From: tonym at compusource.net (tonym)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:25:04 GMT
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
Message-ID: <200806121525328.SM01436@[63.69.23.239]>

I saw that, and found no surprise that 'dick' is smack in the middle of their eBay ID.


Tony

-----Original Message-----
From: Rogelio Perea os9dude at gmail.com
Sent 6/12/2008 11:54:53 AM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)

All in good jest of course...

Found this one today on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260250585412

Besides the pricey starting bid (although I know a few of us would pay top
for something CoCo we may deem as unable to let go), the one thing that
strikes me from some Ebay vendors is the undiscriminating way of the use
RARE... or MINT like on this one.

How about a litlle dust-off before taking the pictures? Poor thing looks
like it was just taken out of storage...

Of calling something as 'mint' when there are obvious problems like a
missing cassette player door... must be the 'optional' bit thrown in there.

Oh well. One more spot on the tiger.



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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Thu Jun 12 15:33:13 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 14:33:13 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco fest check
Message-ID: <20080612.143313.2928.7.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>


Yes
 
On Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:22:06 GMT "tonym" <tonym at compusource.net> writes:
> Was it really necessary to air that out in public?
> 
> I mean - if he had CASHED your check, and sent nothing, well, 
> MAYBE....
> 
> But no loss, no harm, no foul?
> 
> 
> Tony 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T Chasteen johnchasteen.2 at juno.com
> Sent 6/12/2008 3:09:57 PM
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Subject: [Coco] coco fest check
> 
> Steve Bjork
> 
> Do you plan on cashing the check I wrote to you at the coco fest
> 
> for a program you were going to mail to me?
> 
> John Chasteen
> 950 Chelsea Lane
> Schaumburg, IL 60193
> ____________________________________________________________
> Click here to find the right stock, bonds, and mutual funds.
>
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From neilsmorr at gmail.com  Thu Jun 12 18:46:14 2008
From: neilsmorr at gmail.com (Neil Morrison)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 15:46:14 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
References: <200806121525328.SM01436@[63.69.23.239]>
Message-ID: <00b001c8ccde$ada24cc0$0101a8c0@NewBaby>


Not worth the $23 shipping costs. Surely not worth a 1 penny bid.

Neil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "tonym" <tonym at compusource.net>

I saw that, and found no surprise that 'dick' is smack in the middle of 
their eBay ID.

Tony



From operator at coco3.com  Thu Jun 12 20:18:01 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:18:01 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
Message-ID: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>

As some of you might know, I don't just run a web site and write 
programs but also raise a family on my own.  I also manage to hold 
down an unbelievably intense job at UPS.

Anyway, I found out that at 8 PM Central time on the National 
Geographic Channel they have an episode tonight (6/12, Thursday) 
showing what goes on behind the scenes at UPS to move 4 *billion* 
packages a year.  I saw a small clip of the show preview but nobody, 
including me, has the channel to record the show.  Pout pout.  I 
wanted to watch it because they will show one of the world hubs, I 
think.  If anyone on the list has the NGC (channel), could you please 
record the show for me?



From operator at coco3.com  Thu Jun 12 20:27:18 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 19:27:18 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
References: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <20080613002805.C74FD20A33@qs281.pair.com>

I might have found a live stream of the channel, so I could be in 
business, then I'll get back to CoCo business.  :)

http://www.onlydesitv.com/ngctv.html



From cdiman7 at flash.net  Thu Jun 12 21:38:34 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 18:38:34 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <911374.43285.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Rog,
  I see it's on now, if they repeat their programs
likwe the History Channel does, it will be on after
midnight, and I can dump it to dvr. Then I will go
from there.
Karl

--- Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:

> As some of you might know, I don't just run a web
> site and write 
> programs but also raise a family on my own.  I also
> manage to hold 
> down an unbelievably intense job at UPS.
> 
> Anyway, I found out that at 8 PM Central time on the
> National 
> Geographic Channel they have an episode tonight
> (6/12, Thursday) 
> showing what goes on behind the scenes at UPS to
> move 4 *billion* 
> packages a year.  I saw a small clip of the show
> preview but nobody, 
> including me, has the channel to record the show. 
> Pout pout.  I 
> wanted to watch it because they will show one of the
> world hubs, I 
> think.  If anyone on the list has the NGC (channel),
> could you please 
> record the show for me?
> 
> 
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From cdiman7 at flash.net  Thu Jun 12 21:54:34 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (Karl Sefcik)
Date: Thu, 12 Jun 2008 20:54:34 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
References: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <4851D35A.9050907@flash.net>

Roger,
   I just checked on my system, couldn't find it on the web, but my tv 
says that there will be another showing of the UPS show. First, the next 
Ultimate machines right after this will be on the Peterbuilt 
factory.then a show on breweries. Then it repeats the UPS show, since I 
am in Texas, it is at 11:00 here,so you have an hour and a half to set 
your recording devi ce. I will record it too, and can dump it from my 
dvr for ya. Oh, I got my mug a few days ago too, thanks.
Karl Sefcik


Roger Taylor wrote:
> As some of you might know, I don't just run a web site and write 
> programs but also raise a family on my own.  I also manage to hold down 
> an unbelievably intense job at UPS.
> 
> Anyway, I found out that at 8 PM Central time on the National Geographic 
> Channel they have an episode tonight (6/12, Thursday) showing what goes 
> on behind the scenes at UPS to move 4 *billion* packages a year.  I saw 
> a small clip of the show preview but nobody, including me, has the 
> channel to record the show.  Pout pout.  I wanted to watch it because 
> they will show one of the world hubs, I think.  If anyone on the list 
> has the NGC (channel), could you please record the show for me?
> 
> 
> -- 
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> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 


From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun 13 19:26:47 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:26:47 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Glenside coco Club
Message-ID: <20080613.182647.2876.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Good Afternoon Coco Friends

What a great time I had at the coco club meeting last night.
I brought my coco3, MPI, SuperIDE and the CF Adapter.
The monitor and NitrOS-9 expertise was provided by VP
Chris Hawks. His "S Video " really works great.

Thanks Chris for adding the 5 volt regulated supply mod.
to my coco3. Since I forgot to bring the home made connecting
cable, I had to use Chris's CF Adapter and his external power
supply. 

When I connected every thing at home today. I got a big
scare. I got an error message so I went to the maintenance mode.
The 5 volt was available at the CF Adapter. Reading the Doc
that came with the Cloud-9 CF Adapter. This is when I learned
that I had to remove the option jumper. Things don't work when 
you have two "Master" CF units. Now I have 512 Meg (almost)
CF memory for NitrOS9 and HDB-DOS files.

I tried to take notes When Chris showed me how to make a backup
of my Cloud9 CF configured CF. So now I've got a working system
to start getting serious learning NitrOS9.

Thanks to all for coming to my rescue over the years.

John   
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From operator at coco3.com  Fri Jun 13 20:19:09 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:19:09 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <4851D35A.9050907@flash.net>
References: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<4851D35A.9050907@flash.net>
Message-ID: <20080614001936.D2C3820A36@qs281.pair.com>

At 08:54 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
>Roger,
>   I just checked on my system, couldn't find it on the web, but my 
> tv says that there will be another showing of the UPS show. First, 
> the next Ultimate machines right after this will be on the 
> Peterbuilt factory.then a show on breweries. Then it repeats the 
> UPS show, since I am in Texas, it is at 11:00 here,so you have an 
> hour and a half to set your recording devi ce. I will record it 
> too, and can dump it from my dvr for ya. Oh, I got my mug a few 
> days ago too, thanks.
>Karl Sefcik



Thanks Karl.  If you want to you can e-mail a private URL to the 
video file to operator at coco3.com and I'll grab it.  Nobody I knew 
seemed to have the National Geographic Channel.  ??  I wasn't aware 
it was either hard to get or a pay per view channel.  This is why I 
don't have satelite or cable anymore.. got tired of overpaying for 
nothing to watch then having to pay extra for "normal" 
programming.  What a scam.  :)







From operator at coco3.com  Fri Jun 13 21:00:31 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:00:31 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com and Father's Day statement
Message-ID: <20080614010053.1FD0F20A36@qs281.pair.com>

This is my "I bit off more than I can chew" e-mail that I've been 
wanting to send out for a while now.

Dear group,

For those who have made an order on coco3.com and haven't received it 
yet, I know who you are and am working to get your order delivered by 
next week.  There are *7* remaining mug orders to fullfill, a handful 
of DVDs, and few orders came in today.  The mug order buttonw as 
removed for a reason.

I need to explain that since 1999 I've operated the website by myself 
while holding down a demanding job and raising a family on my 
own.  Since Xmas, I received far more orders than I ever expected, 
many of which had undercharged shipping due to PayPal's silly 
mechanism for figuring shipping for shopping cart orders.  On a 
weight-based system, it's almost impossible to fairly compute a 
reasonable shipping amount, and on the mug orders I undercharged for 
almost all orders, or either got it right on the nose but forgot to 
account for my own shipping costs I paid to the mug company.  In 
short, I have paid out of my own pocket to get these mugs out, and 
have relied on current orders to help pay for pending 
orders.  Because orders are always being made, I've managed to take 
today's funds to pay to get yesterday's orders shipped.  Now, for 
software with no overhead to deliver by e-mail, that allows me to get 
several more mugs shipped out.  I was able to get 130+ mugs shipped 
almost all from newer orders for mugs and other items.  This kind of 
flow was sustained for quite a while and as of tonight I think I have 
about 10-12 total orders to deliver.  Do I make a lot at 
work?  No.  I survive on it and do a lot of driving from state to 
state which all knows eats up cash Quick.  So I do fair on making a 
living, in that I manage to eat every day and have a roof over my 
head.  That's about it folks.... nobody's rich behind 
CoCo3.com.  It's a public service web site that I vowed to sit behind 
at my desk since 1999 to do my small part in helping keep the CoCo 
community alive with a Meaningful place to go on the web... to 
communicate with old and New CoCo friends.  What's the price *I* 
pay?  I sometimes I work 12 hours days at work, get no sleep until 
midnight, and get back up at 3:30 or 4am for work.  My theory... 
people who sleep 8 hours or more a night cannot run a business or a 
busy website.  ;)  Again, I live for this stuff, and I welcome all 
inquries and submissions to the site.  I'm an information machine 
with enough area knowledge of the CoCo community to lead people to 
who they are looking for, and I get plenty of newcomers writing me 
asking where to find a person or item, or even how to join this mailing list.

Btw, what I've done to help orders in the future is: I removed the 
mug orders and have reserved them for gifts and prizes.  Floppy disk 
orders are now being handled by Jim Hickle who was kind enough to 
offer to help and has done Very well to get disks delivered 
promptly.  I'll be looking for a CD/DVD writer and mailing person as 
well and will pay fees by PayPal out of the orders I receive.  If you 
want to play this kind of part in the CoCo community and can make a 
good faith statement that you can make copies of these items, label 
them, and send a mailer out quickly as I send orders to you by 
e-mail, I will consider making you a team player.  As most might not 
know, when I take an order for $9.99 for an arcade game, and PayPal 
grabs a fee, I pay $2.50 or more to have it sent out, and with a low 
number of orders to boot, nobody's getting rich off of this stuff.  I 
am simply trying to keep a steady enough flow of small funds to put 
right back into the coco3.com web site.  If I pay $800 for a load of 
coffee mugs and realize that nobody's going to pay more than, say, 
$10 for a mug, I'm either stuck with them, or I can sell them below 
cost for the cause.  Again, nobody's getting rich, and I go out of 
pocket to fix any mistakes I make.  I have undercharged for shipping 
on so many items that perhaps it's even been an incentive for some to 
grab a few more items while they're on the front page.  :)

All in all, I'm very glad to have been a single father who has 
shipped over 1,000 items to hundreds of customers over the past 12 
months or so.  But the time has come to share some of the work to 
anybody who wants to play a part and make a little $ to help make 
sure nothing is delivered late again.  In doing this, I believe I can 
charge even less, give most of the profit to the third party, and put 
anything extra into hosting fees.

If you can find another webmaster who operates on low funds, isn't 
trying to scam the community, works for UPS, and raises 2 demanding 
young children on his own, oh.. and gets little sleep during the 
week... you've found a guy who's job is hard to replace.

Thanks to all, see you in the forums and chatroom, and have a Great 
Father's Day weekend!

Roger Taylor
coco3.com



From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Fri Jun 13 22:05:20 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:05:20 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
Message-ID: <20080613.210520.3584.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Hello Again

I'm taking a break from NitrOS9 Getting Started Manual

I want to get a copy of the Radio Shack Manual for 
the Cat #25-2226 Deluxe R%-232 Pak

I tried Google and ftp.maltemedia.com with out a clue.

Any suggestions will be appreciated

John
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From jdaggett at gate.net  Fri Jun 13 22:31:53 2008
From: jdaggett at gate.net (jdaggett at gate.net)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:31:53 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
In-Reply-To: <20080613.210520.3584.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080613.210520.3584.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <4852F559.14626.1B3B40@jdaggett.gate.net>

John

I will look for mine Saturday and scan it into PDF. I also have a hand drawn schemtic of 
the program pack. 

Can you accept large emails? I am not sure of the proceedure for uploading to 
maltemedia.com. If someone can help with that it would be appreciated. 

james

 
On 13 Jun 2008 at 21:05, John T Chasteen wrote:

> Hello Again
> 
> I'm taking a break from NitrOS9 Getting Started Manual
> 
> I want to get a copy of the Radio Shack Manual for 
> the Cat #25-2226 Deluxe R%-232 Pak
> 
> I tried Google and ftp.maltemedia.com with out a clue.
> 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated
> 
> John
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From alsplace at pobox.com  Fri Jun 13 22:40:26 2008
From: alsplace at pobox.com (Allen Huffman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:40:26 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
Message-ID: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>

Well, we have some water here in Des Moines... And here's the (non- 
CoCo, off topic) proof:

http://web.mac.com/allenhuffman/Flood2008/Home/Home.html

		-- Allen


From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Fri Jun 13 22:43:53 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:43:53 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
References: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <007901c8cdc8$7c176380$74462a80$@com>

YIKES !!!

Did you have to swim to safety or are you ok where you are?  I heard it was
to crest around 1 AM Friday morning...is it starting to recede?

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Allen Huffman
Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 10:40 PM
To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?

Well, we have some water here in Des Moines... And here's the (non- 
CoCo, off topic) proof:

http://web.mac.com/allenhuffman/Flood2008/Home/Home.html

		-- Allen

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From cdiman7 at flash.net  Fri Jun 13 23:00:51 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:00:51 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <486960.9675.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Allen,
  What, no dam pictures?
lol
This will give us something to talk about next fest. 
Funny thing, my college is having it's alumni weekend
sometime this month. Back in '93 when it flooded so
much, I was in Detroit traveling west6, and I got back
before the real damage started. 
   Now I'm west of the Mississippi, and south of Iowa,
but it's too real man. Oh, I am still not working, so
I won't begoing there. On my way up to last fest, I
stopped by there, but can't do it this time.
   Hey, California could use some of that water, too
bad they can't run a pipe (like the Alaska pipeline)
and just ship it there. If you run across anybody that
might be able to do that, ya might merntion it.  And
we could use some of that down here in Texas, till the
hurruicanes start.
Karl

--- Allen Huffman <alsplace at pobox.com> wrote:

> Well, we have some water here in Des Moines... And
> here's the (non- 
> CoCo, off topic) proof:
> 
>
http://web.mac.com/allenhuffman/Flood2008/Home/Home.html
> 
> 		-- Allen
> 
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From alsplace at pobox.com  Fri Jun 13 23:01:06 2008
From: alsplace at pobox.com (Allen Huffman)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 22:01:06 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <007901c8cdc8$7c176380$74462a80$@com>
References: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
	<007901c8cdc8$7c176380$74462a80$@com>
Message-ID: <096E673C-1B5B-4C17-BE28-E51DA0003939@pobox.com>

On Jun 13, 2008, at 9:43 PM, Tom Seagrove wrote:
> Did you have to swim to safety or are you ok where you are?  I heard  
> it was
> to crest around 1 AM Friday morning...is it starting to recede?

I work downtown, but not near the water.  There are areas in town near  
the rivers that are flooded, but we're pretty safe and dry.  Where I  
live, I wouldn't have even know anything was going on if it wasn't for  
me working downtown (since I don't watch the news).  Business as  
usual!  Mowing lawns, etc.

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From robert.gault at worldnet.att.net  Fri Jun 13 23:12:13 2008
From: robert.gault at worldnet.att.net (Robert Gault)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:13 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
In-Reply-To: <20080613.210520.3584.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080613.210520.3584.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <4853370D.3000508@worldnet.att.net>

John T Chasteen wrote:
> Hello Again
> 
> I'm taking a break from NitrOS9 Getting Started Manual
> 
> I want to get a copy of the Radio Shack Manual for 
> the Cat #25-2226 Deluxe R%-232 Pak
> 
> I tried Google and ftp.maltemedia.com with out a clue.
> 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated
> 
> John
> ____________________________________________________________

Do a better job of looking. :)

ftp://maltedmedia.com/coco/MANUALS0/TANDY/HARDWARE/RS232Pak.pdf


From brjeremy at juno.com  Sat Jun 14 00:27:56 2008
From: brjeremy at juno.com (brjeremy at juno.com)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 04:27:56 GMT
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
Message-ID: <20080613.232756.8314.0@webmail08.dca.untd.com>

Dear Allen:
I had been thinking of you and wondering how you were. We were spared any damage but just on the north side of Racine they have had a great deal of damage. This part of Wisconsin was hit pretty hard. Have you heard any thing from James and Billie? I pray that they did not suffer any damage from flooding.
It was so good to see you at the Fest. Its funny, when you count up the time its only twenty or so weekends of my life. Twenty or so Fests. And yet what a precious part of my life they have been. We only see each other for a short time and then the next year pick right up where we left off. And its so hard to believe that each time another year has gone by. 
I' m sounding more American with each passing day. Every Thursday I make a SKYPE call to Exeter and chat for a while with my lads. They are looking forward to my being back with them in October. I also talk with Devin on a regular basis. He is still going out to Crestwood on saturdays helping Father Peter Ainsley with the service. (Fr. Peter is the Chaplain at St. Phillips.) I am so proud of "my sweet little guy." He is feeling growing up into a fine young lad. He asked me if I talked about him in my sermon and I told him that I did. And that I showed everyone his picture and the Cross that he made for me. He asked me "What did they think of me?" I told him that now his Great-Granny and me are not the only ones who think that he's a "sweet little guy." (I did not tell him that there were a few tears in the room as I preached that morning, but I will when I see him again.) I had sent him a copy of my sermon and he took it upon himself to submit it to a British Magazine, and they might be publishing it along with some photo's. We'll see what happens. I kept a journel and I have quite a few more stories that I could share. There may be a book in there somewheres. 
I can't wait to spend time with him and my other lads again.
Again I hope that you are well. I think of you daily and you are in my prayers.
Your friend and brother in Christ,
Jeremy
 
 
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From cdiman7 at flash.net  Sat Jun 14 00:33:25 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:33:25 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080614001936.D2C3820A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <805509.72102.qm@web80202.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Roger,
   When I moved here, it was a long couple of weeks
before I got anything tv-wise. Before I moved, we had
Time Warner, and I saw something that made me think
they were in this area. My subdivision, I found out
later, was wired with fiber from AT&T, their U Verse
gives me 200 channels and a DVR, plus on that fiber, I
get phonje with unlimited local and long distance (in
the US) and fiber internet at 4MB. Hopefully,there is
something down there like that.
Karl

--- Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:

> At 08:54 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
> >Roger,
> >   I just checked on my system, couldn't find it on
> the web, but my 
> > tv says that there will be another showing of the
> UPS show. First, 
> > the next Ultimate machines right after this will
> be on the 
> > Peterbuilt factory.then a show on breweries. Then
> it repeats the 
> > UPS show, since I am in Texas, it is at 11:00
> here,so you have an 
> > hour and a half to set your recording devi ce. I
> will record it 
> > too, and can dump it from my dvr for ya. Oh, I got
> my mug a few 
> > days ago too, thanks.
> >Karl Sefcik
> 
> 
> 
> Thanks Karl.  If you want to you can e-mail a
> private URL to the 
> video file to operator at coco3.com and I'll grab it. 
> Nobody I knew 
> seemed to have the National Geographic Channel.  ?? 
> I wasn't aware 
> it was either hard to get or a pay per view channel.
>  This is why I 
> don't have satelite or cable anymore.. got tired of
> overpaying for 
> nothing to watch then having to pay extra for
> "normal" 
> programming.  What a scam.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 



From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Sat Jun 14 05:12:06 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 03:12:06 -0600
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
References: <AB43FF8F-1D7C-473B-99B6-97F37BB3D083@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20080614091206.GA16657@virgo.sdc.org>

On Fri, Jun 13, 2008 at 09:40:26PM -0500, Allen Huffman wrote:
> Well, we have some water here in Des Moines... And here's the (non- 
> CoCo, off topic) proof:

Send it down here, we can use it!

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From ghova0 at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 11:25:04 2008
From: ghova0 at gmail.com (George Hovey)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:25:04 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Off Topic: Gimix 6809 system
Message-ID: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.com>

I have a Gimix 6809 system which has been in its original carton since
1983.  It was only used a short time before I had to decamp for a job in
Baltimore.  It looks brand new.  I can't test it (no monitor or keyboard)
but it was working in 1983!

Is this of interest to coco people?

George Hovey
ghova0 at gmail.com


From os9dude at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 11:43:39 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:43:39 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Off Topic: Gimix 6809 system
In-Reply-To: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5631e580806140843t213045f8seb0453ec54aa45e6@mail.gmail.com>

I, for one and pretty sure that others will follow, am interested in that
hardware. What are you talking about?, sharing some info on the machine? are
you thinking Ebay?

All I know about the Gimix comes from old CoCo magazines like The Rainbow,
CCN and a few others.


-=[ Rogelio ]=-


On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:25 AM, George Hovey <ghova0 at gmail.com> wrote:

> I have a Gimix 6809 system which has been in its original carton since
> 1983.  It was only used a short time before I had to decamp for a job in
> Baltimore.  It looks brand new.  I can't test it (no monitor or keyboard)
> but it was working in 1983!
>
> Is this of interest to coco people?
>
> George Hovey
> ghova0 at gmail.com
>


From linville at tuxdriver.com  Sat Jun 14 11:59:25 2008
From: linville at tuxdriver.com (John W. Linville)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 11:59:25 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Off Topic: Gimix 6809 system
In-Reply-To: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080614155925.GB4236@tuxdriver.com>

On Sat, Jun 14, 2008 at 11:25:04AM -0400, George Hovey wrote:
> I have a Gimix 6809 system which has been in its original carton since
> 1983.  It was only used a short time before I had to decamp for a job in
> Baltimore.  It looks brand new.  I can't test it (no monitor or keyboard)
> but it was working in 1983!
> 
> Is this of interest to coco people?

Yes, definitely.

-- 
John W. Linville
linville at tuxdriver.com


From keeper63 at cox.net  Sat Jun 14 13:23:32 2008
From: keeper63 at cox.net (Andrew)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 10:23:32 -0700
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com and Father's Day statement
In-Reply-To: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com>
References: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com>
Message-ID: <4853FE94.4060604@cox.net>

Roger,

I know I privately emailed you many times over the course of my order 
(and you got everything sent out to me). I want to appologize - I had no 
clue about this. I knew that CoCo3.com was a "labor of love" (anything 
CoCo nowadays has to be, like any other 8-bit system), but I didn't know 
your situation, or any of the other stuff.

I do want you to know I wasn't trying to rush you with my emails - I 
just wanted an update - maybe you didn't have the time, but an 
explanation like you just posted would have clued me in better. Plus, if 
you were struggling on the shipping, you should have let me know.

Even now, if I owe you shipping costs, let me know what they are and I 
will paypal them over to you.

Everybody who ordered - let's be patient with Roger, it sounds like he 
has a lot on his plate. Now, I do say this as someone whose order has 
been fulfilled, so others who are still waiting may think "easy for you 
to say". But, I must say I waited a long time as well to get all of my 
order in. It did all come in, though - so just be patient (it is all 
worth it, too - especially the games!).

-- Andrew L. Ayers, Glendale, Arizona

> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:00:31 -0500
> From: Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com>
> Subject: [Coco] coco3.com and Father's Day statement
> To: cocolist for Color Computer Enthusiasts <coco at maltedmedia.com>
> Message-ID: <20080614010053.1FD0F20A36 at qs281.pair.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"; format=flowed
> 
> This is my "I bit off more than I can chew" e-mail that I've been 
> wanting to send out for a while now.

[snip - long explanation that is worth reading!]


From operator at coco3.com  Sat Jun 14 19:01:36 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:01:36 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com
In-Reply-To: <4853FE94.4060604@cox.net>
References: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com>
	<4853FE94.4060604@cox.net>
Message-ID: <20080614230203.21AC320A36@qs281.pair.com>

At 12:23 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote:
>Roger,
>
>I know I privately emailed you many times over the course of my 
>order (and you got everything sent out to me). I want to appologize 
>- I had no clue about this. I knew that CoCo3.com was a "labor of 
>love" (anything CoCo nowadays has to be, like any other 8-bit 
>system), but I didn't know your situation, or any of the other stuff.
>
>I do want you to know I wasn't trying to rush you with my emails - I 
>just wanted an update - maybe you didn't have the time, but an 
>explanation like you just posted would have clued me in better. 
>Plus, if you were struggling on the shipping, you should have let me know.
>
>Even now, if I owe you shipping costs, let me know what they are and 
>I will paypal them over to you.
>
>Everybody who ordered - let's be patient with Roger, it sounds like 
>he has a lot on his plate. Now, I do say this as someone whose order 
>has been fulfilled, so others who are still waiting may think "easy 
>for you to say". But, I must say I waited a long time as well to get 
>all of my order in. It did all come in, though - so just be patient 
>(it is all worth it, too - especially the games!).
>
>-- Andrew L. Ayers, Glendale, Arizona


As I said, I've got things whittled down to about 10 orders after 
which things should be ok.  ....  Plan B !!




From daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com  Sat Jun 14 19:09:25 2008
From: daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com (Dave Kelly)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:09:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <486960.9675.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <486960.9675.qm@web80201.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <48544FA5.9030406@embarqmail.com>

KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> Allen,
>   What, no dam pictures?
> lol
> This will give us something to talk about next fest. 
> Funny thing, my college is having it's alumni weekend
> sometime this month. Back in '93 when it flooded so
> much, I was in Detroit traveling west6, and I got back
> before the real damage started. 
>    Now I'm west of the Mississippi, and south of Iowa,
> but it's too real man. Oh, I am still not working, so
> I won't begoing there. On my way up to last fest, I
> stopped by there, but can't do it this time.
>    Hey, California could use some of that water, too
> bad they can't run a pipe (like the Alaska pipeline)
> and just ship it there. If you run across anybody that
> might be able to do that, ya might merntion it.  And
> we could use some of that down here in Texas, till the
> hurruicanes start.
I'm 200 miles south of you just above Houston and we need rain. The 
ponds around my neck of the woods are  drying up. White Oak Bayou is a 
foot below normal. The farmers are talking about their stock ponds 
loosing 4 inches a day.

-- 
Whiskey before breakfast, a little rum in the morning coffee.
Tie flys 'til first light. On the water at sun up.
Scrambled eggs, ham, biscuits and hot coffee after the morning rise.
Bourbon for lunch. Gin and tonic at three.



From brucewcalkins at charter.net  Sat Jun 14 19:27:05 2008
From: brucewcalkins at charter.net (Bruce W. Calkins)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:27:05 -0400
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com
References: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com><4853FE94.4060604@cox.net>
	<20080614230203.21AC320A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <3D74F883F8E14BA5B568B43F46C03D9D@speedy>

> As I said, I've got things whittled down to about 10 
> orders after which things should be ok.  ....  

I got my mug today.  It looks good.

Thanks, Viva la CoCo,

Bruce W.


From operator at coco3.com  Sat Jun 14 20:34:58 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:34:58 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <4851D35A.9050907@flash.net>
References: <20080613001816.9E9BA20A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<4851D35A.9050907@flash.net>
Message-ID: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 08:54 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
>Roger,
>   I just checked on my system, couldn't find it on the web, but my 
> tv says that there will be another showing of the UPS show. First, 
> the next Ultimate machines right after this will be on the 
> Peterbuilt factory.then a show on breweries. Then it repeats the 
> UPS show, since I am in Texas, it is at 11:00 here,so you have an 
> hour and a half to set your recording devi ce. I will record it 
> too, and can dump it from my dvr for ya. Oh, I got my mug a few 
> days ago too, thanks.
>Karl Sefcik



Hey Karl,
Were you able to capture the episode?  The 2-minute preview clip on 
the web is definately not what goes on in 99% of the local hubs 
around the U.S., so I'm interested in knowing what all they hid from 
the public.  :)





From operator at coco3.com  Sat Jun 14 20:42:25 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:42:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com
In-Reply-To: <3D74F883F8E14BA5B568B43F46C03D9D@speedy>
References: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com>
	<4853FE94.4060604@cox.net>
	<20080614230203.21AC320A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<3D74F883F8E14BA5B568B43F46C03D9D@speedy>
Message-ID: <20080615004254.2D97C20A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 06:27 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote:
>>As I said, I've got things whittled down to about 10 orders after 
>>which things should be ok.  ....
>
>I got my mug today.  It looks good.
>
>Thanks, Viva la CoCo,
>
>Bruce W.


Great, Bruce!
It should have had a packet of hot cocoa with marshmallows stuck 
inside the mug.  Just think about all the boxes of hot cocoa I 
couldn't resist tapping into and drinking while packing mugs 
up.  ;)  I had to go buy some more, and more...  hehe.








From brucewcalkins at charter.net  Sat Jun 14 21:23:33 2008
From: brucewcalkins at charter.net (Bruce W. Calkins)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:23:33 -0400
Subject: [Coco] coco3.com
References: <mailman.21.1213452033.36850.coco@maltedmedia.com><4853FE94.4060604@cox.net><20080614230203.21AC320A36@qs281.pair.com><3D74F883F8E14BA5B568B43F46C03D9D@speedy>
	<20080615004254.2D97C20A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <C7DB44CEC93346BFAA66FFF6568BCE7E@speedy>

> At 06:27 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote:
>>>As I said, I've got things whittled down to about 10 orders after which 
>>>things should be ok.  ....
>>
>>I got my mug today.  It looks good.
>>
>>Thanks, Viva la CoCo,
>>
>>Bruce W.
>
>
> Great, Bruce!
> It should have had a packet of hot cocoa with marshmallows stuck inside 
> the mug.  Just think about all the boxes of hot cocoa I couldn't resist 
> tapping into and drinking while packing mugs up.  ;)  I had to go buy some 
> more, and more...  hehe.



Well, your "profit margin" was shot already, might as well go bankrupt in a 
big way drinking up your stock. ;)  I'll probably drink this hot cocoa in 
the AM.  Then I will decide what task to assign this mug too.  Most of "my" 
mugs get jobs holding pens, pencils, small tools and the likes where I can 
see them and remember some of my better times.



Among which memories are the many efforts of driven types like you and Mark 
who continue to work on pushing the limits of our beloved CoCo in ways I can 
barely keep up with.  Many thanks, to those nuttier nuts of the CoCoNuts, 
and thanks for the memories.



Bruce W.



From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Sat Jun 14 21:23:25 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 20:23:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] FW:  Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
Message-ID: <20080614.202325.2148.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chester

I'm having a ball studying NitrOS-9 using the SuperIDE unit
with 2 CF units. I have the 6309 NitrOS CF Boot.

So far I have run into one problem. When I try to format a 5.25
inch floppy, after I hear about 10 clicks (Steps) that is as far as the
format continues ... Failure. I boot the coco3 using the floppy disk and
then
I type    format /d1 and everything works fine. I also loaded format into
memory and   then format /d0 and everything is OK. My conclusion is that
the
format file on the CF is defective.  

What would be the simplest way to replace or write over the format cmds
on the CF unit?

At the meeting last Thursday night, I formatted three 250 Meg CF units
and backup of /I0 on to /I0 so now my master Boot CF is backed up.

I am going in and study some more this evening. We have been in Church 
this morning and Fathers Day service this late afternoon. So this is 
my first opportunity to go to the Computer room.

Suggestions, please.

John
On Sat, 14 Jun 2008 14:27:25 -0600 "Chester Patterson"
<vchester at setec-cr.com> writes:
> There you go John. Have fun!
> 
> /Chester
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John T Chasteen [mailto:johnchasteen.2 at juno.com]
> Sent: Friday, June 13, 2008 8:05 PM
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Subject: [Coco] Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
> 
> Hello Again
> 
> I'm taking a break from NitrOS9 Getting Started Manual
> 
> I want to get a copy of the Radio Shack Manual for 
> the Cat #25-2226 Deluxe R%-232 Pak
> 
> I tried Google and ftp.maltemedia.com with out a clue.
> 
> Any suggestions will be appreciated
> 
> 
 
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From ed.orbea at gmail.com  Sat Jun 14 21:25:40 2008
From: ed.orbea at gmail.com (Ed Orbea)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 18:25:40 -0700
Subject: [Coco]  coco3.com and Father's Day statement
Message-ID: <48546F94.7080801@gmail.com>

Roger:
I have bought various item from you and have always received 
prompt/professional service. I also visit the forums and sometimes as 
technically able to even answer a question. And bases upon informatio0n 
from your site, I made a donation to maintaining the Malted Media FTP 
site. So, you8 might ask why I am saying this, and the reason is to show 
that you and your site are a positive force in the CoCo world, and to 
thank you for all that do do no support us, as well as your family.

Happy (and well deserved) Father's Day!

Ed


From cdiman7 at flash.net  Sat Jun 14 22:47:00 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 19:47:00 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Roger,
I got the whole episode, and it says in the beginning,
that it is the Louiville world hub.  If I can find a
way to dump it to dvd, I'll let yuou know asap. Right
now, I don't know hoiw to do that, so I might even
have to read directions,lol. Of the4 quick tour I took
of the Dalas UPS at night, on the show was a lot
worse. It said they hAve four wings with multiple
planes. 
    Just a side note, somewhere I heard that the
FED-EX airport in Memphis is the busiest freight
airport in the US, maybe that'll be an upcoming show.
    Anyway, my dvr has 4 tuners, and I don't think
there is a dvd slot, I'l;l look, and as a last resort,
find the directions and read them,lol.
Karl

--- Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:

> At 08:54 PM 6/12/2008, you wrote:
> >Roger,
> >   I just checked on my system, couldn't find it on
> the web, but my 
> > tv says that there will be another showing of the
> UPS show. First, 
> > the next Ultimate machines right after this will
> be on the 
> > Peterbuilt factory.then a show on breweries. Then
> it repeats the 
> > UPS show, since I am in Texas, it is at 11:00
> here,so you have an 
> > hour and a half to set your recording devi ce. I
> will record it 
> > too, and can dump it from my dvr for ya. Oh, I got
> my mug a few 
> > days ago too, thanks.
> >Karl Sefcik
> 
> 
> 
> Hey Karl,
> Were you able to capture the episode?  The 2-minute
> preview clip on 
> the web is definately not what goes on in 99% of the
> local hubs 
> around the U.S., so I'm interested in knowing what
> all they hid from 
> the public.  :)
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Sat Jun 14 23:16:36 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 22:16:36 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Deluxe RS-232 Program Pak
Message-ID: <20080614.221636.2148.2.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Robert
Thank you for your help. I checked the FTP site I didn't know
so much information is available.

John
 
On Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:12:13 -0400 Robert Gault
<robert.gault at worldnet.att.net> writes:
> John T Chasteen wrote:
> > Hello Again
> > 
> > I'm taking a break from NitrOS9 Getting Started Manual
> > 
> > I want to get a copy of the Radio Shack Manual for 
> > the Cat #25-2226 Deluxe R%-232 Pak
> > 
> > I tried Google and ftp.maltemedia.com with out a clue.
> > 
> > Any suggestions will be appreciated
> > 
> > John
> > ____________________________________________________________
> 
> Do a better job of looking. :)
> 
> ftp://maltedmedia.com/coco/MANUALS0/TANDY/HARDWARE/RS232Pak.pdf
> 
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> Coco at maltedmedia.com
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> 
> 
 
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From cdiman7 at flash.net  Sun Jun 15 00:35:36 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 21:35:36 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
In-Reply-To: <48544FA5.9030406@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <823672.79091.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dave, 
    That's where you are, I mo ved here in late Feb,
and was wondering oif I might run into you, or see you
at the Fest. Hope with the start of Hurricane season,
that we get some rain out of it, without all the
damage.
http://weather.cbs11tv.com/auto/cbs11tvV3/Region/Southcentral/2xRadar.html?gimg=http://llnw.radar.cbslocal.com/anim/ktvt/radar_anim.gif&gtitle=100%20Mile%20Radius
  Our area is under a storm watch, you can follow it
on the link (I hope)
Karl

--- Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> > Allen,
> >   What, no dam pictures?
> > lol
> > This will give us something to talk about next
> fest. 
> > Funny thing, my college is having it's alumni
> weekend
> > sometime this month. Back in '93 when it flooded
> so
> > much, I was in Detroit traveling west6, and I got
> back
> > before the real damage started. 
> >    Now I'm west of the Mississippi, and south of
> Iowa,
> > but it's too real man. Oh, I am still not working,
> so
> > I won't begoing there. On my way up to last fest,
> I
> > stopped by there, but can't do it this time.
> >    Hey, California could use some of that water,
> too
> > bad they can't run a pipe (like the Alaska
> pipeline)
> > and just ship it there. If you run across anybody
> that
> > might be able to do that, ya might merntion it. 
> And
> > we could use some of that down here in Texas, till
> the
> > hurruicanes start.
> I'm 200 miles south of you just above Houston and we
> need rain. The 
> ponds around my neck of the woods are  drying up.
> White Oak Bayou is a 
> foot below normal. The farmers are talking about
> their stock ponds 
> loosing 4 inches a day.
> 
> -- 
> Whiskey before breakfast, a little rum in the
> morning coffee.
> Tie flys 'til first light. On the water at sun up.
> Scrambled eggs, ham, biscuits and hot coffee after
> the morning rise.
> Bourbon for lunch. Gin and tonic at three.
> 
> 
> --
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> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 



From operator at coco3.com  Sun Jun 15 00:57:25 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sat, 14 Jun 2008 23:57:25 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <20080615045803.0F0A920A35@qs281.pair.com>

At 09:47 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote:
>Roger,
>I got the whole episode, and it says in the beginning,
>that it is the Louiville world hub.  If I can find a
>way to dump it to dvd, I'll let yuou know asap. Right
>now, I don't know hoiw to do that, so I might even
>have to read directions,lol. Of the4 quick tour I took
>of the Dalas UPS at night, on the show was a lot
>worse. It said they hAve four wings with multiple
>planes.
>     Just a side note, somewhere I heard that the
>FED-EX airport in Memphis is the busiest freight
>airport in the US, maybe that'll be an upcoming show.

The night shifts deal with a much slower operation of sorting 
pick-ups from the incoming trucks back onto outgoing trailers.  The 
AM shift has to squeeze X-hundred-thousand packages onto X # of 
trucks in exactly X # of hours and no more, no questions asked, no 
failure.  Talk about pressure.


>     Anyway, my dvr has 4 tuners, and I don't think
>there is a dvd slot, I'l;l look, and as a last resort,
>find the directions and read them,lol.

At worst you might can just run the DVR's A/V out jacks into a VCR's 
A/V in jacks to get a VHS copy, or into a PC capture card.



>Karl







From daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com  Sun Jun 15 08:57:46 2008
From: daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com (Dave Kelly)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 07:57:46 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <823672.79091.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <823672.79091.qm@web80207.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <485511CA.3010505@embarqmail.com>

KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> Dave, 
>     That's where you are, I mo ved here in late Feb,
> and was wondering oif I might run into you, or see you
> at the Fest.

I'm in the village of Todd Mission (pop. 54 during the summer), home of 
the Texas Renaissance Festival. Every  weekend from the first one in 
October thru  Thanksgiving I will put on my garb and become: Dafydd 
Cealleigh - Celtic Cloth Merchant.

-- 
Whiskey before breakfast, a little rum in the morning coffee.
Tie flys 'til first light. On the water at sun up.
Scrambled eggs, ham, biscuits and hot coffee after the morning rise.
Bourbon for lunch. Gin and tonic at three.



From operator at coco3.com  Sun Jun 15 11:18:00 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 10:18:00 -0500
Subject: [Coco] (no subject)
Message-ID: <20080615151831.1425020A35@qs281.pair.com>

Can someone here help this guy?  Old printer ribbons are out of my league.

I've copied the original e-mail into this one:
---

To: operator at coco3.com
Subject: The Tandy Color Computer SuperSite Feedback



The Tandy Color Computer SuperSite

Sender's Name: tom
Sender's Email: tjm57 at lonetree.com
Message: where can I find a ribbon for a dmp 105 printer?
thank you



From dml_68 at yahoo.com  Sun Jun 15 12:59:29 2008
From: dml_68 at yahoo.com (Derek)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 09:59:29 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
Message-ID: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Howdy all,

I have been playing a game made by Steve Bjork titled Warp Fighter-3D and upon loading one of the game prompts asks me if I am using Deep Vision Glasses. I am looking for information on how these worked, if they could be re-created as i would assume these are rare and hard to find and also if any other games or coco programs had support for them.

Thank you



** Mistrust Authority. Promote Decentralization **


 


      


From paulej at arid.us  Sun Jun 15 13:38:15 2008
From: paulej at arid.us (Paul E. Jones)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 13:38:15 -0400
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <02fd01c8cf0e$97a73a70$c6f5af50$@us>

Derek,

You can get 3 pairs for "free" for $2 here:
http://www.3dglasses.com/

Paul

> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-
> bounces at maltedmedia.com] On Behalf Of Derek
> Sent: Sunday, June 15, 2008 12:59 PM
> To: CoCo List
> Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
> 
> Howdy all,
> 
> I have been playing a game made by Steve Bjork titled Warp Fighter-3D
> and upon loading one of the game prompts asks me if I am using Deep
> Vision Glasses. I am looking for information on how these worked, if
> they could be re-created as i would assume these are rare and hard to
> find and also if any other games or coco programs had support for them.
> 
> Thank you
> 
> 
> 
> ** Mistrust Authority. Promote Decentralization **
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --
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> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 




From alsplace at pobox.com  Sun Jun 15 13:48:17 2008
From: alsplace at pobox.com (Allen Huffman)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 12:48:17 -0500
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <02fd01c8cf0e$97a73a70$c6f5af50$@us>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<02fd01c8cf0e$97a73a70$c6f5af50$@us>
Message-ID: <55F6BB7E-8D53-4EAB-BA15-6AE9D539FA0C@pobox.com>

On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
> You can get 3 pairs for "free" for $2 here:
> http://www.3dglasses.com/

There are variations of anaglyph 3-D.  There is the "red/blue" and  
"red/cyan" (which is a lighter blue). I'm not sure which ones Warp  
Fighter 3-D was designed to work with.

I've done quite a bit of 3-D home video ( http://3d.disneyfans.com )  
and have used both types, but I don't know if I ever tried that game  
with actual 3-D glasses.

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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Sun Jun 15 14:18:57 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 14:18:57 -0400
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <55F6BB7E-8D53-4EAB-BA15-6AE9D539FA0C@pobox.com>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<02fd01c8cf0e$97a73a70$c6f5af50$@us>
	<55F6BB7E-8D53-4EAB-BA15-6AE9D539FA0C@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <200806151418.57501.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Sunday 15 June 2008, Allen Huffman wrote:
>On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>> You can get 3 pairs for "free" for $2 here:
>> http://www.3dglasses.com/
>
>There are variations of anaglyph 3-D.  There is the "red/blue" and
>"red/cyan" (which is a lighter blue). I'm not sure which ones Warp
>Fighter 3-D was designed to work with.
>
>I've done quite a bit of 3-D home video ( http://3d.disneyfans.com )
>and have used both types, but I don't know if I ever tried that game
>with actual 3-D glasses.
>
>--
>WE'RE FLOODED! http://web.mac.com/allenhuffman/Flood2008
>
Its been 58 years since I've seen that area flooded like that.  I trust you are 
still dry?

>Over 98,000 digital pics from Disney, Theme Parks, and Ren Fests!
>Visit http://www.AtTheFaire.com or http://www.DisneyFans.com
>(1980's Retro Computing: I want my CoCo 4! www.coco4.com)
>
>Orlando (and other places) cheap luxury vacation offers - and I get
>credit!
>http://www.WestgateResorts.com/or/index.cfm?acct=9009895609&sales=8664429956
>&language=en
>
>
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From operator at coco3.com  Sun Jun 15 18:41:21 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 17:41:21 -0500
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <55F6BB7E-8D53-4EAB-BA15-6AE9D539FA0C@pobox.com>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<02fd01c8cf0e$97a73a70$c6f5af50$@us>
	<55F6BB7E-8D53-4EAB-BA15-6AE9D539FA0C@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20080615224336.D207A20A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 12:48 PM 6/15/2008, you wrote:
>On Jun 15, 2008, at 12:38 PM, Paul E. Jones wrote:
>>You can get 3 pairs for "free" for $2 here:
>>http://www.3dglasses.com/
>
>There are variations of anaglyph 3-D.  There is the "red/blue" and
>"red/cyan" (which is a lighter blue). I'm not sure which ones Warp
>Fighter 3-D was designed to work with.
>
>I've done quite a bit of 3-D home video ( http://3d.disneyfans.com )
>and have used both types, but I don't know if I ever tried that game
>with actual 3-D glasses.



Cool page, Allen.  I had no idea you did that kind of stuff.  Did 
anyone else?  I haven't seen any places on the web featuring 3-D 
videos like that.

The absolute best 3-D movies I've ever witnessed were at 6-Flags in 
Arlington, TX... years ago there was a fighter jet sim in the theatra 
with moving seats.  The glasses were polarized with clear 
lenses.  You were brought into the screen it was so real.  Then last 
year I took the kids back there only to find they replaced the ride 
with Sponge Bob, same moving seats, same huge screen... which was 
actually even better 3-D since it was computer generated.  We ended 
up going back 3 more times just to experience it again.  The screen 
came right out to your face and the depth was real, and when objects 
came way out, they touched your nose.  :)  Then at the end a pickle 
explodes and everybody gets sprayed with water.

Now, what about simulated 3-D without glasses?  Sure!  I wrote a 
graphics animation for the PC using DarkBASIC Professional that 
features a HQ image of a software box spinning and rotating above the 
grand canynon, coming towards the camera then back out 
continuously.  You hear wind blowing that gets louder when the box is 
closest to you, and the background blurs more as the box is closest 
to you, while the box stays the same.  I'll try to post it on my web 
site somewhere for anyone to download!





From cdiman7 at flash.net  Sun Jun 15 22:25:41 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 19:25:41 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <485511CA.3010505@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dave,
 You and Allen Huffman should get togethetr on the
renaissance stuff. 

Karl

--- Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> > Dave, 
> >     That's where you are, I mo ved here in late
> Feb,
> > and was wondering oif I might run into you, or see
> you
> > at the Fest.
> 
> I'm in the village of Todd Mission (pop. 54 during
> the summer), home of 
> the Texas Renaissance Festival. Every  weekend from
> the first one in 
> October thru  Thanksgiving I will put on my garb and
> become: Dafydd 
> Cealleigh - Celtic Cloth Merchant.
> 
> -- 
> Whiskey before breakfast, a little rum in the
> morning coffee.
> Tie flys 'til first light. On the water at sun up.
> Scrambled eggs, ham, biscuits and hot coffee after
> the morning rise.
> Bourbon for lunch. Gin and tonic at three.
> 
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 



From neilsmorr at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 02:01:11 2008
From: neilsmorr at gmail.com (Neil Morrison)
Date: Sun, 15 Jun 2008 23:01:11 -0700
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <040901c8cf76$a7bd22e0$0101a8c0@NewBaby>


One of the magazines had a pair - Rainbow maybe or Kilobaud? I still have 
mine. Don't know if they are Deep Vision Glasses but they were made to work 
with 8 bit color.

Neil

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Derek" <dml_68 at yahoo.com>

> Howdy all,
>
> I have been playing a game made by Steve Bjork titled Warp Fighter-3D and 
> upon loading one of the game prompts asks me if I am using Deep Vision 
> Glasses. I am looking for information on how these worked, if they could 
> be re-created as i would assume these are rare and hard to find and also 
> if any other games or coco programs had support for them.
>
> Thank you



From Torsten at Dittel.info  Mon Jun 16 07:46:57 2008
From: Torsten at Dittel.info (Torsten Dittel)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 13:46:57 +0200
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <040901c8cf76$a7bd22e0$0101a8c0@NewBaby>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<040901c8cf76$a7bd22e0$0101a8c0@NewBaby>
Message-ID: <g35jrf$qs5$1@ger.gmane.org>

I only still have my pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril 
Sensitive Sunglasses which came with my HHGTTG box, but those are only 
helpful if you're going to get your score or if the Ravenous Bugblatter 
Beast of Traal is close...

;-) Torsten

Neil Morrison schrieb:
> 
> One of the magazines had a pair - Rainbow maybe or Kilobaud? I still 
> have mine. Don't know if they are Deep Vision Glasses but they were made 
> to work with 8 bit color.
> 
> Neil



From rob.coco at zaphod.tzo.com  Mon Jun 16 07:51:22 2008
From: rob.coco at zaphod.tzo.com (Rob Rosenbrock)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 07:51:22 -0400
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
Message-ID: <1zg2176ovn83wuu.160620080751@zaphod.tzo.com>

Mine have been helpful whenever I'm a passenger in someone elses car.

-----Original Message-----
From: "Torsten Dittel" <Torsten at Dittel.info>
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Sent: 6/16/08 7:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses

I only still have my pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril 
Sensitive Sunglasses which came with my HHGTTG box, but those are only 
helpful if you're going to get your score or if the Ravenous Bugblatter 
Beast of Traal is close...

;-) Torsten

Neil Morrison schrieb:
> 
> One of the magazines had a pair - Rainbow maybe or Kilobaud? I still 
> have mine. Don't know if they are Deep Vision Glasses but they were made 
> to work with 8 bit color.
> 
> Neil


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From Torsten at Dittel.info  Mon Jun 16 08:03:01 2008
From: Torsten at Dittel.info (Torsten Dittel)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 14:03:01 +0200
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <1zg2176ovn83wuu.160620080751@zaphod.tzo.com>
References: <1zg2176ovn83wuu.160620080751@zaphod.tzo.com>
Message-ID: <g35kpj$u5u$1@ger.gmane.org>

Rob Rosenbrock schrieb:
> Mine have been helpful whenever I'm a passenger in someone elses car.

Darn, I should have brought them to Colombia last year before joining 
taxi drivers over there. Streets were almost like that one here in Bolivia:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b7/Bolivia_Yunga_Road.jpg

However, I now remember, there was this other type of 3D-glasses popular 
here in Germany about 20 years ago using the Pulfrich Effect.

Here's a nice summary on stereoscopy and different types of glasses:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stereoscopy




From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 08:44:50 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 08:44:50 -0400
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Deep Vision Glasses
In-Reply-To: <g35jrf$qs5$1@ger.gmane.org>
References: <554352.22757.qm@web30204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<040901c8cf76$a7bd22e0$0101a8c0@NewBaby> <g35jrf$qs5$1@ger.gmane.org>
Message-ID: <5631e580806160544o671b12b0t2249128cee3a9597@mail.gmail.com>

Hey Torsten... would you mind if I borrow those?... lost mine on a freak
encounter with one of my bosses, forgot to put on the towel - he saw me
wearing them and they got confiscated. Anyway, I need to go on and about
rebooting several computers here and need something to allow me plow through
without seeing the serious shortcomings these 11 pound pencils cause
everyday.

http://www.tomsguide.com/us/who-designed-this-crap,review-655.html

To keep things in topic, I was asked not too long ago by a couple of
colleagues on the *why* do I insist on making my "command prompt" windows
with a nuclear green background and the 5x12 raster font...


-=[ Rogelio ]=-


On Mon, Jun 16, 2008 at 7:46 AM, Torsten Dittel <Torsten at dittel.info> wrote:

> I only still have my pair of Joo Janta 200 Super-Chromatic Peril Sensitive
> Sunglasses which came with my HHGTTG box, but those are only helpful if
> you're going to get your score or if the Ravenous Bugblatter Beast of Traal
> is close...
>
> ;-) Torsten


From farna at att.net  Mon Jun 16 11:33:50 2008
From: farna at att.net (Frank Swygert)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 11:33:50 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Greetings from Iowa - anyone need any water?
Message-ID: <485687DE.2010709@att.net>

With all the midwest flooding and dry areas elsewhere, maybe a pipeline 
isn't such a bad idea! You'd need a two-way pump -- pump it "up" during 
hurricane season and "down" during spring floods. We need one ruin over 
this way too (mid SC) -- for the last three years it's been dry and hot 
from mid June to mid September. Drought conditions in a lot of the 
south-east still prevail.

-- 
Frank Swygert
Publisher, "American Motors Cars" 
Magazine (AMC)
For all AMC enthusiasts
http://farna.home.att.net/AMC.html
(free download available!)



From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Mon Jun 16 18:14:02 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 18:14:02 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
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And now, back and better than before, please have a look at the latest
listing.........

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150248043328

I just love the "vintage" color of the unit!!!

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Rogelio Perea
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:55 AM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)

All in good jest of course...

Found this one today on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260250585412

Besides the pricey starting bid (although I know a few of us would pay top
for something CoCo we may deem as unable to let go), the one thing that
strikes me from some Ebay vendors is the undiscriminating way of the use
RARE... or MINT like on this one.

How about a litlle dust-off before taking the pictures? Poor thing looks
like it was just taken out of storage...

Of calling something as 'mint' when there are obvious problems like a
missing cassette player door... must be the 'optional' bit thrown in there.

Oh well. One more spot on the tiger.



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From daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com  Mon Jun 16 21:33:30 2008
From: daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com (Dave Kelly)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:33:30 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> Dave,
>  You and Allen Huffman should get togethetr on the
> renaissance stuff. 

I keep trying to get him to come down. Maybe this Nov.
-- 
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From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun 16 21:39:48 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:39:48 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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At 09:47 PM 6/14/2008, you wrote:
>Roger,
>I got the whole episode, and it says in the beginning,
>that it is the Louiville world hub.  If I can find a
>way to dump it to dvd, I'll let yuou know asap. Right
>now, I don't know hoiw to do that, so I might even
>have to read directions,lol. Of the4 quick tour I took
>of the Dalas UPS at night, on the show was a lot
>worse. It said they hAve four wings with multiple
>planes.


Karl, Roy Justus sent me a VHS tape of the show but I'm still 
interested in a digital copy if you can.

Roy, thanks!!  It came today and I just finished watching it.

Although they showed little of what happens the most at UPS, the 
Ground package system, they did show that the lower 3 floors of that 
super hub were dedicated to those types of packages.  That's where 
the hardest work is and why the cameras only showed a few seconds of 
manual labor there.  Some of the most fit people around (who were 
crazy enough to fall for UPS) are on those floors.  One guy said it 
all... "I don't need to go to the gym every night, I get plenty of 
excercise here"  haha.  So true.  And it can be trying for not so fit 
people.  Today we had a black guy layed out on the floor in our 
bathroom (which has A/C) having breathing problems.  They may have 
taken him to the E.R., but who would know... we were too busy to even 
inquire more about it.  Poor fella.  This summer heat and the 
pressure they force on you is enough to cause vomiting and health 
issues, and is why they offer the best insurance around, free and 
almost always 100% coverage on whatever it takes to get you back in 
the game (sad, isn't it?).  A new cover driver in our center all of a 
sudden yesterday had internal pain and was told to go to the E.R. by 
his doctor, where they did immediate surgery and removed his (I 
think) appendix (sp?).  All along UPS has a secret slogal "I bleed 
brown" and sayings similar to that where it seems like they expect 
you to give your life to grow the company.  But in the end, you can 
live off the pension til you croak over.

Then at the end it finally showed a brief look at the drivers, 
something I do as well, but again, they only showed slow moments, no 
sweating, easy-going appearance, etc. which is just not the case 99% 
of the time.  In the summer it feels like an OVEN in the back of the 
trucks.  Sweat will boil from your arms and body if you stay back 
there long enough.  So, you get out quick.  Oh, and did I mention no 
power steering?   Only the newest of trucks have it but they 
literally keep bringing the old trucks back from the dead by repair 
so the majority use muscle steering.

Then finally, the mind-boggling statement... "you'll almost never see 
a UPS driver making a left turn -- right turns only".  Most of this 
is preset in the order of the stops for the day, but a great deal of 
that strategy comes with experience and area knowledge.  For 
instance, if a train suddenly shows up and parks right on the track 
that goes all the way through town, and there's only a few bridges 
that go under or over the train, you're expected to magically devise 
a formula in your head within seconds or minutes to either stay on 
track while going around the train, or restructure the order of stops 
while the train is sitting there causing delays.  Or what if you're 
dispatched with a truck full of stops but no route plan.  You've got 
to invent a formula in your head?  Sure.  Tell them you can't figure 
it out or do it and you'll be punished and probably never drive 
again.  That's about 1 of 50 things off the top of my head that can 
challenge a delivery person's fun-filled day.  :)

Anyway, thanks for the video.  I learned a lot what I didn't already 
know about our system.

We now return you to our regular scheduled CoCo programming.  :)
Sorry for the off-topic, guys.




From alsplace at pobox.com  Mon Jun 16 21:36:23 2008
From: alsplace at pobox.com (Allen Huffman)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:36:23 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>

Dave ... can we have an E.G.G.S. reunion in Texas this Fall?

		-- Allen

(That's the computer club where I met Dave back before I moved to East  
Texas in 1984.)

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From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun 16 22:02:24 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:02:24 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
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	<72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>

At 08:36 PM 6/16/2008, you wrote:
>Dave ... can we have an E.G.G.S. reunion in Texas this Fall?
>
>                 -- Allen
>
>(That's the computer club where I met Dave back before I moved to East
>Texas in 1984.)

East Texan here.  Well, for 3 years anyway.  Didn't you say you lived 
in the Longview area at one time?
'course you can tell a true East Texan because he wears shirts with 
cut-off sleeves, has tattoos on his arms, his wife has tattoos on her 
back and legs (and arms?), has a thong hanging out above her pants, 
and there's a 30% chance he owns some kind of motorcycle.  The 
competition with the Harley's around here is getting bigger.  One of 
our bosses at UPS now shows up on a Harley.  This Saturday he rode it 
inside the building to get it out of the rain.  Mint condition.  Must 
be nice making the money he does, the millionaire bastard.  ;)  No 
tats on him, though.. he's a clean cut man but probably going through 
the midlife crisis about now and thought a Harley would knock about 
10 years off his life.  hehehe.

Oh, and oil derrecks.  My Lord, if there's that much oil under these 
grounds everybody should be checking their back yards, even trailer 
park renters?..,. sure, run a garden hose under the ground and try to 
get a barrel to help pay the rent.

So, to sum up East Texas... and yes this is a bit 
exxagerated,...  drunks, drugs, Harley's, TATTOOS, heart-breaking 
women everywhere, flat bed trucks with those welding units on the 
back, over-sized trucks with no purpose other than to compensate, 
sleeveless shirts in the summer (women too, even the hot ones), and 
most of the industry is oil-based.  There's companys that sell bolts 
and nuts to another company that builds parts for another company 
that builds bigger parts for another company that contracts for the 
local oil companies, and they're all in about the same area.  And 
guess who gets to lift all that heavy crap every day.   :)  But 
there's certainly lots and lots of rich people with huge unaffordable 
houses, lots of lawyers, doctors, and the most car lots I've ever 
seen in one area in any city.  If you can't get a new car here with 0 
down, you can't get a car at all, and 4 Super Wal-Marts.

So, is the reunion in East Texas?  Should ya'll arrive on a Harley?




From brucewcalkins at charter.net  Mon Jun 16 22:10:16 2008
From: brucewcalkins at charter.net (Bruce W. Calkins)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 22:10:16 -0400
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
References: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com><373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20080617013953.80A7B20A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <379A30564B864AAEAC99475155ED0793@speedy>

You forgot to mention that, "It's the toughest ship in the shipping 
business."



Bruce W.




> Anyway, thanks for the video.  I learned a lot what I didn't already know 
> about our system.
>
> We now return you to our regular scheduled CoCo programming.  :)
> Sorry for the off-topic, guys.





From jps.subscriptions at gmail.com  Mon Jun 16 22:17:41 2008
From: jps.subscriptions at gmail.com (J.P. Samson)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 20:17:41 -0600
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
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	<20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <6B3DE24C-0E96-4BCA-8EB1-080E33B970A4@gmail.com>

On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Roger Taylor wrote:
> So, to sum up East Texas... and yes this is a bit exxagerated,...   
> drunks, drugs, Harley's, TATTOOS, heart-breaking women everywhere,  
> flat bed trucks with those welding units on the back, over-sized  
> trucks with no purpose other than to compensate, sleeveless shirts  
> in the summer (women too, even the hot ones), and most of the  
> industry is oil-based.

Sounds like Alberta, especially Calgary or Fort McMurray.  The former  
is where all the oil company head offices are, the latter being the  
site of the oil sands--that's one really, really big strip mine.  Lots  
of single men (and Newfoundlanders), some of the most expensive  
housing in the country, prostitutes, drugs, big trucks and Hummers,  
etc., all in the middle of absolutely nowhere.

-- JP


From alsplace at pobox.com  Mon Jun 16 22:21:04 2008
From: alsplace at pobox.com (Allen Huffman)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:21:04 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
	<72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
	<20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <26AA195C-5B50-4BE4-BF07-BA60595F8244@pobox.com>

On Jun 16, 2008, at 9:02 PM, Roger Taylor wrote:
> East Texan here.  Well, for 3 years anyway.  Didn't you say you  
> lived in the Longview area at one time?

 From Houston, lived in Mesquite around 1980 when I was in 6th grade,  
then moved back to Houston area, then to Broaddus/Pineland/Lufkin from  
1984-1995, then Des Moines area ever since. That should cover it.

> 'course you can tell a true East Texan because he wears shirts with  
> cut-off sleeves, has tattoos on his arms, his wife has tattoos on  
> her back and legs (and arms?), has a thong hanging out above her  
> pants, and there's a 30% chance he owns some kind of motorcycle.   
> The competition with the Harley's around here is getting bigger.   
> One of our bosses at UPS now

Yeah, I never really fit in.  I don't even have a Texas accent.

> So, is the reunion in East Texas?  Should ya'll arrive on a Harley?

Prolly Houston.  I've now lived in Des Moines longer than I lived in  
East Texas.

I wonder where the old Atlanta Computer Club folks are these days?

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From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun 16 22:27:08 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:27:08 -0500
Subject: [Coco] off-topic: National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <379A30564B864AAEAC99475155ED0793@speedy>
References: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20080617013953.80A7B20A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<379A30564B864AAEAC99475155ED0793@speedy>
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At 09:10 PM 6/16/2008, you wrote:
>You forgot to mention that, "It's the toughest ship in the shipping business."
>
>
>
>Bruce W.

I think it's "tightest" ship?  It's been so long since they ran that 
ad that I can't recall.





From operator at coco3.com  Mon Jun 16 22:34:07 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Mon, 16 Jun 2008 21:34:07 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <6B3DE24C-0E96-4BCA-8EB1-080E33B970A4@gmail.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
	<72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
	<20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<6B3DE24C-0E96-4BCA-8EB1-080E33B970A4@gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080617023411.6436920A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 09:17 PM 6/16/2008, you wrote:
>On Jun 16, 2008, at 8:02 PM, Roger Taylor wrote:
>>So, to sum up East Texas... and yes this is a bit exxagerated,...
>>drunks, drugs, Harley's, TATTOOS, heart-breaking women everywhere,
>>flat bed trucks with those welding units on the back, over-sized
>>trucks with no purpose other than to compensate, sleeveless shirts
>>in the summer (women too, even the hot ones), and most of the
>>industry is oil-based.
>
>Sounds like Alberta, especially Calgary or Fort McMurray.  The former
>is where all the oil company head offices are, the latter being the
>site of the oil sands--that's one really, really big strip mine.  Lots
>of single men (and Newfoundlanders), some of the most expensive
>housing in the country, prostitutes, drugs, big trucks and Hummers,
>etc., all in the middle of absolutely nowhere.
>
>-- JP

yea, I forgot to mention the Longview nasty prostitutes, some of 
which are rounded up weekly right behind our own UPS center on 
Highway 80 in front of the motels.
And strip clubs all down Hwy 31 between Longview and Tyler, with beer 
joints in between them.  AND... get this.. what a shocker... halfway 
down Hwy 31 about 20 miles out is an XXX drive-in 
theatre.  What??  Suuuuurrrreee.  It's E. Texas.  Nobody seems to care.




From ghova0 at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 08:44:43 2008
From: ghova0 at gmail.com (George Hovey)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 08:44:43 -0400
Subject: [Coco] GIMIX computer on eBay
Message-ID: <b0cab5a80806170544s61eb28d3y578c8f2d5b1fb65e@mail.gmail.com>

I am getting ready to offer the GIMIX 6809 system (see my post on 14 June)
on eBay.

If you are interested, send me an email with GIMIX in the subject line and
I'll send you a fact sheet on the computer, and a notice when the auction
actually starts.

George Hovey
ghova0 at gmail.com


From ghfame at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 09:35:42 2008
From: ghfame at gmail.com (GH Family Enterprises)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 09:35:42 -0400
Subject: [Coco] GIMIX computer on eBay
In-Reply-To: <b0cab5a80806170544s61eb28d3y578c8f2d5b1fb65e@mail.gmail.com>
References: <b0cab5a80806170544s61eb28d3y578c8f2d5b1fb65e@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <5eebd8e50806170635t4d51a46ei6a7ec5ac3b495d0b@mail.gmail.com>

Is there such a thing as an "add-in" board for the PC?

On 6/17/08, George Hovey <ghova0 at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I am getting ready to offer the GIMIX 6809 system (see my post on 14 June)
> on eBay.
>
> If you are interested, send me an email with GIMIX in the subject line and
> I'll send you a fact sheet on the computer, and a notice when the auction
> actually starts.
>
> George Hovey
> ghova0 at gmail.com
>
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From mrp300 at nycap.rr.com  Tue Jun 17 12:59:03 2008
From: mrp300 at nycap.rr.com (mark phoenix)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:59:03 -0400
Subject: [Coco] please remove me from list....thanks
Message-ID: <000f01c8d09b$72b8c880$0200a8c0@marks>



From rrivey at yahoo.com  Tue Jun 17 15:29:04 2008
From: rrivey at yahoo.com (Richard Ivey)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 12:29:04 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Coco Digest, Vol 60, Issue 18
Message-ID: <200882.12061.qm@web34701.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

The Other Bob is in Dallas and I am just an hour and a half from Roger.  Sounds like Tyler or something would be a dandy (yes...I said "dandy") place to have an East Texas coco thing.  

I'd be down with that.



      


From daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com  Tue Jun 17 20:02:46 2008
From: daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com (Dave Kelly)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:02:46 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
	<72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
Message-ID: <485850A6.7020209@embarqmail.com>

Allen Huffman wrote:
> Dave ... can we have an E.G.G.S. reunion in Texas this Fall?
> 
>         -- Allen
> 
> (That's the computer club where I met Dave back before I moved to East 
> Texas in 1984.)

Haven't heard about Terry Goode in eons.
Haven't heard about Conrad Kersey in eons.
John Donaldson is in the Dallas area.

What were some of the names of  the other members?
What was the name of the lady and her husband that you rode to Alanta with?




-- 
Isidora  of Seville founded the field of etymology in 630 A.D.


From news at wzydhek.com  Tue Jun 17 20:15:16 2008
From: news at wzydhek.com (Walt)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 00:15:16 -0000
Subject: [Coco] [Color Computer] .os9 file format
Message-ID: <g39k2k+r7ds@eGroups.com>

Can anyone tell me the format/layout of .OS9 files? I belive they are 
disk "images" produced by OS9Max. I have one that I would like to use 
in an Keil's Coco3 Emulator, but no tool (nor the emulator) seems to 
recognize the format of this file.




From tjseagrove at writeme.com  Tue Jun 17 20:52:44 2008
From: tjseagrove at writeme.com (Tom Seagrove)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 20:52:44 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
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Relisted for the greatly reduced price of.........................

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280237336429

May next time he will get close to a decent starting bid.....

Tom

-----Original Message-----
From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com] On
Behalf Of Rogelio Perea
Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:55 AM
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)

All in good jest of course...

Found this one today on Ebay:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260250585412

Besides the pricey starting bid (although I know a few of us would pay top
for something CoCo we may deem as unable to let go), the one thing that
strikes me from some Ebay vendors is the undiscriminating way of the use
RARE... or MINT like on this one.

How about a litlle dust-off before taking the pictures? Poor thing looks
like it was just taken out of storage...

Of calling something as 'mint' when there are obvious problems like a
missing cassette player door... must be the 'optional' bit thrown in there.

Oh well. One more spot on the tiger.



-=[ Rogelio ]=-

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From robert.gault at worldnet.att.net  Tue Jun 17 21:36:41 2008
From: robert.gault at worldnet.att.net (Robert Gault)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:36:41 -0400
Subject: [Coco] [Color Computer] .os9 file format
In-Reply-To: <g39k2k+r7ds@eGroups.com>
References: <g39k2k+r7ds@eGroups.com>
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Walt wrote:

> Can anyone tell me the format/layout of .OS9 files? I belive they are 
> disk "images" produced by OS9Max. I have one that I would like to use 
> in an Keil's Coco3 Emulator, but no tool (nor the emulator) seems to 
> recognize the format of this file.
> 
> 
> 

I don't know about OS9Max whatever that is, but PC .os9 files are all 
the data portions of the disks tracks strung end to end. The only 
emulator that requires the extension .os9 to work correctly with the 
disk image is MESS. Other emulators may or may not know what that 
extension means, so just change it to .dsk

You may or may not know that there is much more information stored on a 
Coco disk than exists within the 256 byte data of each sector. There are 
track headers, sector headers, and sector footers. You can look at the 
format in the technical section of the Tandy "Color Computer Disk 
System" owner's manual or a Western Digital products handbook.
Most emulators omit all of this control data (with the exception of the 
Kiel emulator) and just contain the sector data. If the disk image is 
single sided, the image is T0S1-T34S18 or T0S1-T39S18. If the image is 
double sided, the tracks, front and back, alternate in the image.

If your image contains one of the tricky copy protected programs, then 
it may need to have the track and sector system control bytes as well as 
the data portions of the sectors or it won't work.
The Kiel emulator should come with documentation describing how the 
extra control bytes are used in the emulation. Regardless, you don't 
need to do anything except change the extension from .os9 to .dsk


From brucewcalkins at charter.net  Tue Jun 17 21:54:02 2008
From: brucewcalkins at charter.net (Bruce W. Calkins)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:54:02 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
References: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<005d01c8d0dd$9edafa40$dc90eec0$@com>
Message-ID: <B0465B2900E540E68C06BB7DB58FA15A@speedy>

Man, I have got to sell off some of my extra CoCos for those going prices!

Bruce W.



> Relisted for the greatly reduced price of.........................
> 
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280237336429
> 
> May next time he will get close to a decent starting bid.....
> 
> Tom


From os9dude at gmail.com  Tue Jun 17 21:55:20 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 21:55:20 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
In-Reply-To: <005d01c8d0dd$9edafa40$dc90eec0$@com>
References: <5631e580806120854q18a8c36aga5024a2e4a5382e9@mail.gmail.com>
	<005d01c8d0dd$9edafa40$dc90eec0$@com>
Message-ID: <5631e580806171855t4afa1087qa0ceb4af27a4e8ad@mail.gmail.com>

Well, someone plunked down $115.00 down for the "clean & shiny in appearance
mint" CoCo.

Here's hoping the buyer will do a decent TLC job on the thing...



-=[ R ]=-



On Tue, Jun 17, 2008 at 8:52 PM, Tom Seagrove <tjseagrove at writeme.com>
wrote:

> Relisted for the greatly reduced price of.........................
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=280237336429
>
> May next time he will get close to a decent starting bid.....
>
> Tom
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com [mailto:coco-bounces at maltedmedia.com]
> On
> Behalf Of Rogelio Perea
> Sent: Thursday, June 12, 2008 11:55 AM
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Subject: [Coco] Ebay CoCo Police Report ;-)
>
> All in good jest of course...
>
> Found this one today on Ebay:
>
> http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=260250585412
>
>


From cdiman7 at flash.net  Tue Jun 17 22:42:23 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Tue, 17 Jun 2008 19:42:23 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <485850A6.7020209@embarqmail.com>
Message-ID: <877340.15787.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Dave,
    Do you mean Al Dages? Or those two that did the
games cheat sheetsw, uh, Nan and Lyn Pagent? I think
Al passed away, don't know about the other 2.

Karl

  I almost thought I wouldn't have remembered their
names,lol.

--- Dave Kelly <daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com> wrote:

> Allen Huffman wrote:
> > Dave ... can we have an E.G.G.S. reunion in Texas
> this Fall?
> > 
> >         -- Allen
> > 
> > (That's the computer club where I met Dave back
> before I moved to East 
> > Texas in 1984.)
> 
> Haven't heard about Terry Goode in eons.
> Haven't heard about Conrad Kersey in eons.
> John Donaldson is in the Dallas area.
> 
> What were some of the names of  the other members?
> What was the name of the lady and her husband that
> you rode to Alanta with?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
> Isidora  of Seville founded the field of etymology
> in 630 A.D.
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 



From zmerch-coco at 30below.com  Wed Jun 18 01:36:21 2008
From: zmerch-coco at 30below.com (Roger Merchberger)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 01:36:21 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Off Topic: Gimix 6809 system
In-Reply-To: <b0cab5a80806140825i53f4d07au57da0e2840a5da18@mail.gmail.co
 m>
Message-ID: <5.1.0.14.2.20080618013505.0129f660@mail.30below.com>

Rumor has it that George Hovey may have mentioned these words:
>I have a Gimix 6809 system which has been in its original carton since
>1983.  It was only used a short time before I had to decamp for a job in
>Baltimore.  It looks brand new.  I can't test it (no monitor or keyboard)
>but it was working in 1983!
>
>Is this of interest to coco people?

Ah... yea, very interested.

What would it take to give that system a *very* loving home?

Let me know!
Thanks,
Roger "Merch" Merchberger



From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Wed Jun 18 08:31:16 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 07:31:16 -0500
Subject: [Coco] coco3 with SuperIDEand two external CF units
Message-ID: <20080618.073116.3980.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Chris Hawks

sorry I missed you last night. I didn't want to bug you after you spent a
long hard day with OS-9 at work.
That is the reason I call back once since I have un timed long distance
service in the 48 States. I like
it when I don't have to talk fast

I have been going trough the NitrOS9 Getting started manual which I have
in hard copy.
I haven't figured out the syntax to see what is stored on i1 (the stored
files on the first CF unit)
I wasn't sure how to spell syntax so I checked the documentation that
comes with HDB-DOS 1.1 ).
This manual may have everything I need to get started... I only have 5
days before we leave the coco
equipment for 34 days.  I am really enjoying my self playing.

My question last night was how do I backup your 5.25 floppy before I
start trying to use DriveWire.
I noticed you have on the label 35TSS. I formatted a 40 track (NiO9) and
that didn't work. So
I booted L2 Tandy OS9 and formatted a 5.25 floppy. I think this is 35
tracks. I was in NitrOS9 L2
when I tried to backup your 5.25 in floppy.

What do I have to do to be successful?

I am going to work through the HDB-DOS user manual before I call or
e-mail any more questions.

Thanks again for all the help at the last meeting. I don't think I'm
going to try hooking up a physical IDE Drive.
I will wait until next summer. All I'm taking south is the /SuperIDE
Cloud9 unit and some formatted CF units.
I want to load some applications on the CF units... a spreadsheet and
Deskmate3.

Is there a (white paper) tutorial on how to add  BASICO9 to the CF 
NitrOS9 files? I would like to
play with that this winter.

Help from the coco list is always appreciated.

John
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From jcewy at swbell.net  Wed Jun 18 10:17:43 2008
From: jcewy at swbell.net (Joel Ewy)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 09:17:43 -0500
Subject: [Coco] (was off-topic): National Geographic episode
In-Reply-To: <20080617013953.80A7B20A36@qs281.pair.com>
References: <20080615003525.E825620A33@qs281.pair.com>	<373930.6374.qm@web80204.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<20080617013953.80A7B20A36@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <48591907.70101@swbell.net>

Roger Taylor wrote:
> ...
>
> Then finally, the mind-boggling statement... "you'll almost never see
> a UPS driver making a left turn -- right turns only".  Most of this is
> preset in the order of the stops for the day, but a great deal of that
> strategy comes with experience and area knowledge.  For instance, if a
> train suddenly shows up and parks right on the track that goes all the
> way through town, and there's only a few bridges that go under or over
> the train, you're expected to magically devise a formula in your head
> within seconds or minutes to either stay on track while going around
> the train, or restructure the order of stops while the train is
> sitting there causing delays.  Or what if you're dispatched with a
> truck full of stops but no route plan.  You've got to invent a formula
> in your head?  Sure.  Tell them you can't figure it out or do it and
> you'll be punished and probably never drive again.  That's about 1 of
> 50 things off the top of my head that can challenge a delivery
> person's fun-filled day.  :)
>
> ...
> We now return you to our regular scheduled CoCo programming.  :)
> Sorry for the off-topic, guys.
>
I bet if you had Boisy's in-vehicle mobile CoCo you could cook up a
program to generate an optimal path for your delivery route.  And we're
back on topic!  :)

JCE
>
>
> -- 
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>



From ghova0 at gmail.com  Wed Jun 18 12:01:32 2008
From: ghova0 at gmail.com (George Hovey)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 12:01:32 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Gimix computer on eBay - Roger "Merch" Merchberger
Message-ID: <b0cab5a80806180901h755b01d4h547614430826d11f@mail.gmail.com>

Roger,
If you will send me a "real" email address (ie, one I can reply to with
gmail) I'll send you a fact sheet on the GIMIX system.
George Hovey


From robert.gault at worldnet.att.net  Wed Jun 18 20:29:18 2008
From: robert.gault at worldnet.att.net (Robert Gault)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:29:18 -0400
Subject: [Coco] coco3 with SuperIDEand two external CF units
In-Reply-To: <20080618.073116.3980.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080618.073116.3980.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <4859A85E.5020407@worldnet.att.net>

John T Chasteen wrote:

><snip >
> I haven't figured out the syntax to see what is stored on i1 (the stored
> files on the first CF unit)

Should just be
dir /i1

><snip>
> My question last night was how do I backup your 5.25 floppy before I
> start trying to use DriveWire.
> I noticed you have on the label 35TSS. I formatted a 40 track (NiO9) and
> that didn't work.
> What do I have to do to be successful?

If the disk in question is an OS-9 disk, you can use the command 
'backup' under OS-9/NitrOS-9. That won't work with a Disk Basic disk as 
OS-9 won't recognize the disk. You will need to run Backup under Disk Basic.
Further, the receiving disk should have the same format as the original. 
So since your disk is labeled 35TSS, it must be formatted as a 35 track 
single sided disk, the Disk Basic default. Under OS-9, you need to 
either adjust the descriptor for the receiving disk or tell Format to 
make a 35T single sided disk.

> 
<snip>
> Is there a (white paper) tutorial on how to add  BASICO9 to the CF 
> NitrOS9 files?

You need to copy all the modules that are part of Basic09 to the 
NitrOS-9 CMDS directory on the CF; Basic09, RunB, gfx, gfx2, inkey, and 
syscall.
You may not have all those files. They should be present in the next 
release of NitrOS-9.


From daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com  Wed Jun 18 21:21:40 2008
From: daveekelly1 at embarqmail.com (Dave Kelly)
Date: Wed, 18 Jun 2008 20:21:40 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <877340.15787.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
References: <877340.15787.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
Message-ID: <4859B4A4.9070201@embarqmail.com>

KARL SEFCIK wrote:
> Dave,
>     Do you mean Al Dages? Or those two that did the
> games cheat sheetsw, uh, Nan and Lyn Pagent? I think
> Al passed away, don't know about the other 2.

This was the grooup in Houston.

Al was from Atlanta. He took several of us to the airport after the 
first PennFest and when he return to the motel had a heart attack and 
died. Sad, sad.
> 
> 
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
> 


-- 
Isidora  of Seville founded the field of etymology in 630 A.D.


From os9dude at gmail.com  Fri Jun 20 11:35:37 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2008 11:35:37 -0400
Subject: [Coco] CoCo Ebay Police report 06/20/2008
Message-ID: <5631e580806200835t7058e793u71de3198453378dd@mail.gmail.com>

Now this is a much better way to post a CoCo auction... despite the problem
the seller noted on hooking up the CoCo properly to a TV set, the screen
pictures are as fuzzy as hell. Anyway, I thought the old battleship grey
looks pretty good with the low-profile keyboard...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=320265397461

The word 'vintage' only shown once in the listinng... good point. The word
'mint' entirely missing even as this setup looks very well kept :-)



-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From PaulH96636 at aol.com  Sun Jun 22 17:39:01 2008
From: PaulH96636 at aol.com (PaulH96636 at aol.com)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 17:39:01 EDT
Subject: [Coco] test message
Message-ID: <c02.39e35442.35902075@aol.com>

Haven't received any Coco / maltedmedia messages in days.
Is the cocolist okay?
 
-ph



**************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for 
fuel-efficient used cars.      (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)


From jcewy at swbell.net  Sun Jun 22 17:46:34 2008
From: jcewy at swbell.net (Joel Ewy)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 16:46:34 -0500
Subject: [Coco] test message
In-Reply-To: <c02.39e35442.35902075@aol.com>
References: <c02.39e35442.35902075@aol.com>
Message-ID: <485EC83A.1040500@swbell.net>

Ack.  Everybody must be on vacation.

JCE

PaulH96636 at aol.com wrote:
> Haven't received any Coco / maltedmedia messages in days.
> Is the cocolist okay?
>  
> -ph
>
>
>
> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for 
> fuel-efficient used cars.      (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>
>   



From os9dude at gmail.com  Sun Jun 22 18:44:03 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Sun, 22 Jun 2008 18:44:03 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Vintage Technology Magazine
Message-ID: <5631e580806221544q59b5bc0bp33116f0649f9fe71@mail.gmail.com>

Perhaps this has been presented before here, I haven't seen any references
to it so here it goes:

http://www.vintagetechnology.co.uk/

An vintage computing magazine available as PDF downloads (2 USD an issue),
the first edition (Aug 2007) is available for free download.


-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Mon Jun 23 03:16:03 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 01:16:03 -0600
Subject: [Coco] test message
In-Reply-To: <485EC83A.1040500@swbell.net>
References: <c02.39e35442.35902075@aol.com> <485EC83A.1040500@swbell.net>
Message-ID: <20080623071603.GB17953@virgo.sdc.org>

On Sun, Jun 22, 2008 at 04:46:34PM -0500, Joel Ewy wrote:
> Ack.  Everybody must be on vacation.

I can't even get to my coco right now.  :-(  Besides, even if I could,
it would overheat, and my electromechanical black thumb is in full
force.

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Mon Jun 23 05:18:27 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:18:27 -0600
Subject: [Coco] superpet
Message-ID: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>

I was browsing through the library today and stumbled across a book
called "Introducing the SuperPET" or someting like that, so I picked
it up and looked through it.

Commodore's SuperPET is a dual processor machine, with a 6502 & a
6809.  The 6809 makes it at least vaguely on topic for this list. :-)
It has several interesting features.

First, it's dual processor is either/or.  There's a hardware switch on
the front to select either 6502, 6809, or enable a software switch for
the two.

The memory map (which is the same for either processor) has 32K RAM
starting at 0x0000.  Above that is video RAM, a 4K bank-switchable
page, I/O space, and ROM.  There is an additional 64K RAM that can be
switched into the switchable page, in 4K blocks.  There are also two
ROMs, and switching the processor automatically selects the proper ROM
and reboots the machine.

Disk drives are connected via IEEE-488.  They are intelligent drives,
handling the filesystem themselves.  

The 6502 ROM is Commodore BASIC.  I read somewhere that the PET line
actually had Microsoft BASIC, but Commodore didn't fess up one way or
the other.

The 6809 ROM is more interesting.  It's a BIOS for a Pascal system
developed at the University of Waterloo.  From the description, it
sounds similar to the old P-code system, except that it compiles down
to 6809 binaries.  It is implied that the Pascal system has to load
more code off a disk to be functional.  

I was hoping the book would mention OS-9, but it didn't. :-(

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Mon Jun 23 05:27:50 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 03:27:50 -0600
Subject: [Coco] BASIC09!
Message-ID: <20080623092750.GB21650@virgo.sdc.org>

After further browsing in the library, I came across a nice fat book
of papers about computer programming languages.  That's always been
one of my interests, so I picked it up.

Unlike a lot of CS books, it had a fairly large section on BASIC.  One
of the papers was by one of the Dartmuth(sp?) profs who'd originally
created the language back in 1968.

He spent a lot of ink putting down all the various versions of his pet
language (esp. the microcomputer versions), including BASIC-09.

Then he tells us why: He's started his own company to sell his own
version of BASIC, True BASIC.

Which looks a lot like BASIC-09, but uglier and weaker.  In your face,
Prof!

He can't even write a parser that doesn't require "LET".  There's a
word for BASICs that require LET.  They're called loosers!

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 05:36:25 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 05:36:25 -0400
Subject: [Coco] BASIC09!
In-Reply-To: <20080623092750.GB21650@virgo.sdc.org>
References: <20080623092750.GB21650@virgo.sdc.org>
Message-ID: <5631e580806230236o6f842dd7ocfb87821bc1daeb2@mail.gmail.com>

I've always found Basic09 to be one of the most elegant implementations of
the language, and it could be because of the CoCo experience *thing*, but
B09 has been also a joy to program with.

Long live Basic09 :-)


-=[ Rogelio ]=-


On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 5:27 AM, Willard Goosey <goosey at virgo.sdc.org>
wrote:

> After further browsing in the library, I came across a nice fat book
> of papers about computer programming languages.  That's always been
> one of my interests, so I picked it up.
>
> Unlike a lot of CS books, it had a fairly large section on BASIC.  One
> of the papers was by one of the Dartmuth(sp?) profs who'd originally
> created the language back in 1968.
>
> He spent a lot of ink putting down all the various versions of his pet
> language (esp. the microcomputer versions), including BASIC-09.
>
> Then he tells us why: He's started his own company to sell his own
> version of BASIC, True BASIC.
>
> Which looks a lot like BASIC-09, but uglier and weaker.  In your face,
> Prof!
>
> He can't even write a parser that doesn't require "LET".  There's a
> word for BASICs that require LET.  They're called loosers!
>


From boisy at boisypitre.com  Mon Jun 23 07:03:10 2008
From: boisy at boisypitre.com (Boisy G. Pitre)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 06:03:10 -0500
Subject: [Coco] superpet
In-Reply-To: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>
References: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>
Message-ID: <EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>

Willard,

You might find this link to be of interest:

http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/magazines/misc/SuperPET_OS_9_TPUG_Feb_1985.pdf

I've emailed the Toronto Pet User Group at info at tpug.ca to see if  
anyone has a copy of OS-9 for the SuperPet, but never got a response.

Regards,
Boisy G. Pitre
--
Email: boisy at boisypitre.com
Web: http://www.boisypitre.com

On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Willard Goosey wrote:

> I was browsing through the library today and stumbled across a book
> called "Introducing the SuperPET" or someting like that, so I picked
> it up and looked through it.
>
> Commodore's SuperPET is a dual processor machine, with a 6502 & a
> 6809.  The 6809 makes it at least vaguely on topic for this list. :-)
> It has several interesting features.
>
> First, it's dual processor is either/or.  There's a hardware switch on
> the front to select either 6502, 6809, or enable a software switch for
> the two.
>
> The memory map (which is the same for either processor) has 32K RAM
> starting at 0x0000.  Above that is video RAM, a 4K bank-switchable
> page, I/O space, and ROM.  There is an additional 64K RAM that can be
> switched into the switchable page, in 4K blocks.  There are also two
> ROMs, and switching the processor automatically selects the proper ROM
> and reboots the machine.
>
> Disk drives are connected via IEEE-488.  They are intelligent drives,
> handling the filesystem themselves.
>
> The 6502 ROM is Commodore BASIC.  I read somewhere that the PET line
> actually had Microsoft BASIC, but Commodore didn't fess up one way or
> the other.
>
> The 6809 ROM is more interesting.  It's a BIOS for a Pascal system
> developed at the University of Waterloo.  From the description, it
> sounds similar to the old P-code system, except that it compiles down
> to 6809 binaries.  It is implied that the Pascal system has to load
> more code off a disk to be functional.
>
> I was hoping the book would mention OS-9, but it didn't. :-(
>
> Willard
> -- 
> Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>  -- R.E. Howard
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco



From mrp300 at nycap.rr.com  Mon Jun 23 11:14:33 2008
From: mrp300 at nycap.rr.com (mark phoenix)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:14:33 -0400
Subject: [Coco] please remove me from list..........
Message-ID: <000801c8d543$d7d959d0$0300a8c0@marks>



From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 11:36:33 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 11:36:33 -0400
Subject: [Coco] please remove me from list..........
In-Reply-To: <000801c8d543$d7d959d0$0300a8c0@marks>
References: <000801c8d543$d7d959d0$0300a8c0@marks>
Message-ID: <5631e580806230836o18fe8f7fh4e633f1bed4a2df1@mail.gmail.com>

You can unsubscribe by following the bottom URL attached to all messages
sent via the list...

http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco



On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 11:14 AM, mark phoenix <mrp300 at nycap.rr.com> wrote:

>
>
> --
> Coco mailing list
> Coco at maltedmedia.com
> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>


From sklammer at gmail.com  Mon Jun 23 12:03:55 2008
From: sklammer at gmail.com (Shain Klammer)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 12:03:55 -0400
Subject: [Coco] superpet
In-Reply-To: <EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>
References: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>
	<EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>
Message-ID: <3925f0b0806230903n57d310bfg3e495ab45da57d@mail.gmail.com>

I've actually got one of these along with a dual disk drive in my
collection... but without any disks (etc.) I haven't really done much with
it... much less the 6809 side...

It may take awhile before someone at TPUG gets back to you... although (as I
understand) they still meet regularly, I don't believe the numbers are still
there (they once were the world's largest)...

sk

2008/6/23 Boisy G. Pitre <boisy at boisypitre.com>:

> Willard,
>
> You might find this link to be of interest:
>
>
> http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/magazines/misc/SuperPET_OS_9_TPUG_Feb_1985.pdf
>
> I've emailed the Toronto Pet User Group at info at tpug.ca to see if anyone
> has a copy of OS-9 for the SuperPet, but never got a response.
>
> Regards,
> Boisy G. Pitre
> --
> Email: boisy at boisypitre.com
> Web: http://www.boisypitre.com
>
>
> On Jun 23, 2008, at 4:18 AM, Willard Goosey wrote:
>
> I was browsing through the library today and stumbled across a book
>> called "Introducing the SuperPET" or someting like that, so I picked
>> it up and looked through it.
>>
>> Commodore's SuperPET is a dual processor machine, with a 6502 & a
>> 6809.  The 6809 makes it at least vaguely on topic for this list. :-)
>> It has several interesting features.
>>
>> First, it's dual processor is either/or.  There's a hardware switch on
>> the front to select either 6502, 6809, or enable a software switch for
>> the two.
>>
>> The memory map (which is the same for either processor) has 32K RAM
>> starting at 0x0000.  Above that is video RAM, a 4K bank-switchable
>> page, I/O space, and ROM.  There is an additional 64K RAM that can be
>> switched into the switchable page, in 4K blocks.  There are also two
>> ROMs, and switching the processor automatically selects the proper ROM
>> and reboots the machine.
>>
>> Disk drives are connected via IEEE-488.  They are intelligent drives,
>> handling the filesystem themselves.
>>
>> The 6502 ROM is Commodore BASIC.  I read somewhere that the PET line
>> actually had Microsoft BASIC, but Commodore didn't fess up one way or
>> the other.
>>
>> The 6809 ROM is more interesting.  It's a BIOS for a Pascal system
>> developed at the University of Waterloo.  From the description, it
>> sounds similar to the old P-code system, except that it compiles down
>> to 6809 binaries.  It is implied that the Pascal system has to load
>> more code off a disk to be functional.
>>
>> I was hoping the book would mention OS-9, but it didn't. :-(
>>
>> Willard
>> --
>> Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
>> Socorro, New Mexico, USA
>> I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
>>  -- R.E. Howard
>>
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From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Tue Jun 24 01:00:56 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:00:56 -0600
Subject: [Coco] BASIC09!
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806230236o6f842dd7ocfb87821bc1daeb2@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080623092750.GB21650@virgo.sdc.org>
	<5631e580806230236o6f842dd7ocfb87821bc1daeb2@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080624050056.GA12402@virgo.sdc.org>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 05:36:25AM -0400, Rogelio Perea wrote:
> I've always found Basic09 to be one of the most elegant implementations of
> the language, 

Gotta agree.  I'll always have a soft spot for Color BASIC, but
BASIC-09 is very nice.  

>and it could be because of the CoCo experience *thing*, but
> B09 has been also a joy to program with.

Yeah, it's enjoyable to program in BASIC-09.  And how many languages
can you say that about!?!?
> 
> Long live Basic09 :-)
> 
Hear, hear!

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Tue Jun 24 01:17:22 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:17:22 -0600
Subject: [Coco] superpet
In-Reply-To: <EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>
References: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>
	<EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>
Message-ID: <20080624051722.GB12402@virgo.sdc.org>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 06:03:10AM -0500, Boisy G. Pitre wrote:

>http://www.commodore.ca/gallery/magazines/misc/SuperPET_OS_9_TPUG_Feb_1985.pdf

Interesting.  I wonder what the required hardware modification is?
And I also wonder how they provide subdirectories and time-stamping on
disk drives that do their own filesystem.

> I've emailed the Toronto Pet User Group at info at tpug.ca to see if  
> anyone has a copy of OS-9 for the SuperPet, but never got a response.

Well, I don't have a PET so my interest is purely historical.  Humm,
some friends of mine had a PET, middle-school surplus.  I wonder if
they still have it....

But a lot of the old user groups have disappeared. :-(  And the
retrocomputing fad seemed to mostly bypass the PET in favor of the
C64.

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From goosey at virgo.sdc.org  Tue Jun 24 01:23:47 2008
From: goosey at virgo.sdc.org (Willard Goosey)
Date: Mon, 23 Jun 2008 23:23:47 -0600
Subject: [Coco] superpet
In-Reply-To: <3925f0b0806230903n57d310bfg3e495ab45da57d@mail.gmail.com>
References: <20080623091827.GA21650@virgo.sdc.org>
	<EA6BFB3C-0D97-43DE-BD31-2DFBC61878FE@boisypitre.com>
	<3925f0b0806230903n57d310bfg3e495ab45da57d@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <20080624052347.GC12402@virgo.sdc.org>

On Mon, Jun 23, 2008 at 12:03:55PM -0400, Shain Klammer wrote:

> It may take awhile before someone at TPUG gets back to you... although (as I
> understand) they still meet regularly, I don't believe the numbers are still
> there (they once were the world's largest)...

Maybe Boisy should bug them again.  I think it would be really cool if
he could port NitrOS9 to the SuperPET!  

Even if Boisy doesn't do that, I'd be interested in seeing some of
their device drivers.  I'd like to see how they handled the IEEE-488
bus.

Willard
-- 
Willard Goosey  goosey at sdc.org
Socorro, New Mexico, USA
I search my heart and find Cimmeria, land of Darkness and the Night.
  -- R.E. Howard


From jhoger at pobox.com  Tue Jun 24 13:58:50 2008
From: jhoger at pobox.com (John R. Hogerhuis)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 17:58:50 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Coco] Attn: Roger Merchberger
Message-ID: <loom.20080624T175718-433@post.gmane.org>

(sorry for the interruption)

Roger, if you've got an alternate email address to 30below.com, please contact
me. I am unable to post to the Model 100 list or your primary address.

Thanks,

-- John.



From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Tue Jun 24 17:17:20 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 16:17:20 -0500
Subject: [Coco] test message
Message-ID: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>


PaulH

One of the reason you didn't see much action because  I didn't feel like
taking my wireless
notebook to the hospital. Started running a fever last Thursday and got
to come home
yesterday afternoon.  Marge and I missed my 80th birthday dinner.
Pneumonia in one 
lobe in my lung. The doctor gives me several months and I should  be
100%. 

While in the hospital I did get to study the Documentation for the
HDB-DOS that
CLOUD-9 provided with the SuperIDE unit. I am going to have a 250Meg CF
unit
in the IDE port. later I want to install some OS9 applications and BASIC
programs.
I don't have a lot of energy since I have to take some powerful pain
medicine so I
can tolerate the 6 week old shingles outbreak on one side of my back 

How are you using your coco system? 

Sure hope Bob Devries wasn't on that Ferry boat  that sunk in the
Philippine waters. That was the first thing that came to mind.
  
John Chasteen
 
On Sun, 22 June 2008 17:39:01 EDT PaulH96636 at aol.com writes:
> Haven't received any Coco / maltedmedia messages in days.
> Is the cocolist okay?
>  
> -ph
> 
> 
> 
> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for 
> fuel-efficient used cars.      
> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
> 
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Tue Jun 24 22:14:08 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Tue, 24 Jun 2008 22:14:08 -0400
Subject: [Coco] test message
In-Reply-To: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
References: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <200806242214.08581.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Tuesday 24 June 2008, John T Chasteen wrote:
>PaulH
>
>One of the reason you didn't see much action because  I didn't feel like
>taking my wireless
>notebook to the hospital. Started running a fever last Thursday and got
>to come home
>yesterday afternoon.  Marge and I missed my 80th birthday dinner.
>Pneumonia in one
>lobe in my lung. The doctor gives me several months and I should  be
>100%.
>
Sorry to hear that John, best of luck.

>While in the hospital I did get to study the Documentation for the
>HDB-DOS that
>CLOUD-9 provided with the SuperIDE unit. I am going to have a 250Meg CF
>unit
>in the IDE port. later I want to install some OS9 applications and BASIC
>programs.
>I don't have a lot of energy since I have to take some powerful pain
>medicine so I
>can tolerate the 6 week old shingles outbreak on one side of my back

Been there, done that, taint fun.  It will redefine ones personal pain tolerance 
level.  Are they still using Valtrex?  I found that after the fact, it wasn't 
effective for me.

>How are you using your coco system?
>
>Sure hope Bob Devries wasn't on that Ferry boat  that sunk in the
>Philippine waters. That was the first thing that came to mind.

No one has said, so we won't know anything but the good news when he does check 
in.

>John Chasteen
>
>On Sun, 22 June 2008 17:39:01 EDT PaulH96636 at aol.com writes:
>> Haven't received any Coco / maltedmedia messages in days.
>> Is the cocolist okay?
>>
>> -ph
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
>> fuel-efficient used cars.
>> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
>>
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>> Coco at maltedmedia.com
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From alxevans at concentric.net  Thu Jun 26 00:08:17 2008
From: alxevans at concentric.net (Alex Evans)
Date: Wed, 25 Jun 2008 18:08:17 -1000
Subject: [Coco] test message
In-Reply-To: <200806242214.08581.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
References: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
	<200806242214.08581.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
Message-ID: <A2B39350-99EB-4697-A0E1-3336035C3FBE@concentric.net>


On  24  Jun 2008, at 4:14 PM, Gene Heskett wrote:

> On Tuesday 24 June 2008, John T Chasteen wrote:
>>
>> Sure hope Bob Devries wasn't on that Ferry boat  that sunk in the
>> Philippine waters. That was the first thing that came to mind.
>
> No one has said, so we won't know anything but the good news when  
> he does check
> in.

It seems really unlikely, he wasn't in the right (or is it wrong)  
part of the country.



From devries.bob at gmail.com  Thu Jun 26 00:57:46 2008
From: devries.bob at gmail.com (Bob Devries)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 12:57:46 +0800
Subject: [Coco] test message
References: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <000b01c8d749$2f1c7e00$7001a8c0@toshiba>

Hey, guys, I'm alive and well in Mindanao.
I wasn't on the ferry that capsized.
We did have a lot of rain and high winds where I am, and the power was off 
for two days, but otherwise no damage.


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "John T Chasteen" <johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
To: <coco at maltedmedia.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2008 5:17 AM
Subject: Re: [Coco] test message


>
> PaulH
>
> One of the reason you didn't see much action because  I didn't feel like
> taking my wireless
> notebook to the hospital. Started running a fever last Thursday and got
> to come home
> yesterday afternoon.  Marge and I missed my 80th birthday dinner.
> Pneumonia in one
> lobe in my lung. The doctor gives me several months and I should  be
> 100%.
>
> While in the hospital I did get to study the Documentation for the
> HDB-DOS that
> CLOUD-9 provided with the SuperIDE unit. I am going to have a 250Meg CF
> unit
> in the IDE port. later I want to install some OS9 applications and BASIC
> programs.
> I don't have a lot of energy since I have to take some powerful pain
> medicine so I
> can tolerate the 6 week old shingles outbreak on one side of my back
>
> How are you using your coco system?
>
> Sure hope Bob Devries wasn't on that Ferry boat  that sunk in the
> Philippine waters. That was the first thing that came to mind.
>
> John Chasteen
>
> On Sun, 22 June 2008 17:39:01 EDT PaulH96636 at aol.com writes:
>> Haven't received any Coco / maltedmedia messages in days.
>> Is the cocolist okay?
>>
>> -ph
>>
>>
>>
>> **************Gas prices getting you down? Search AOL Autos for
>> fuel-efficient used cars.
>> (http://autos.aol.com/used?ncid=aolaut00050000000007)
>>
>> --
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>> Coco at maltedmedia.com
>> http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>>
>>
>
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From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Thu Jun 26 04:03:24 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 04:03:24 -0400
Subject: [Coco] test message
In-Reply-To: <000b01c8d749$2f1c7e00$7001a8c0@toshiba>
References: <20080624.161720.3500.0.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
	<000b01c8d749$2f1c7e00$7001a8c0@toshiba>
Message-ID: <200806260403.24505.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Thursday 26 June 2008, Bob Devries wrote:
>Hey, guys, I'm alive and well in Mindanao.
>I wasn't on the ferry that capsized.
>We did have a lot of rain and high winds where I am, and the power was off
>for two days, but otherwise no damage.
>
Great news Bob, thanks for checking in.

-- 
Cheers, Gene
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 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
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but to do justice, and to love kindness, and to walk humbly before your God?


From johnchasteen.2 at juno.com  Thu Jun 26 22:52:43 2008
From: johnchasteen.2 at juno.com (John T Chasteen)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:52:43 -0500
Subject: [Coco] Does anyone remember "Dynamic Color News"
Message-ID: <20080626.215244.4548.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>

Jim  I just ran across this e-mail. What ever happened?
Have you scanned?

John

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:35:50 -0800 "Jim Cox" <nutz4coco at gmail.com>
writes:
> I'm going through a collection of magazines I inherited a while back 
> and
> sandwiched between some Hot Coco's and Color Computer News where a 
> bunch of
> "Dynamic Color News" from Dynamic Electronics of Hartselle, AL..
> 
> Bill Chapple is listed as President and both John Pearson Ph.D., and 
> Bob
> Morgan Ph.D. as consultants.  From the brief look I took at the 
> magazines,
> they look pretty informative for their size (approximately 10 pages 
> per
> issue)
> 
> If I could get permission to scan them, I would be willing to post 
> them some
> place.
> 
> Jim
> 
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> 
> 
 
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From rvanscherpe at gmail.com  Fri Jun 27 00:31:32 2008
From: rvanscherpe at gmail.com (Ron VanScherpe)
Date: Thu, 26 Jun 2008 21:31:32 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Rainbow Magazines for Sale
Message-ID: <e5d2079a0806262131i66019717ud1db30383c14eea@mail.gmail.com>

Hey there,

I have a few Rainbow Magazines for sale.  They are all intact but they are
worn a bit.
Here are the issues I have:

October 1987
December 1987
March 1986
December 1986
November 1986
September 1986
May 1986(missing a couple back pages)
April 1986
February 1986

I'm asking $4 for each + shipping or you could by the whole lot at $30 +
shipping.

Please let me know if you are interested.

Ron.


From dml_68 at yahoo.com  Sat Jun 28 11:15:20 2008
From: dml_68 at yahoo.com (Derek)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 08:15:20 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] Does anyone remember "Dynamic Color News"
In-Reply-To: <20080626.215244.4548.1.johnchasteen.2@juno.com>
Message-ID: <325232.29080.qm@web30208.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Did they produce software as well as the publication?



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--- On Thu, 6/26/08, John T Chasteen <johnchasteen.2 at juno.com> wrote:
From: John T Chasteen <johnchasteen.2 at juno.com>
Subject: Re: [Coco] Does anyone remember "Dynamic Color News"
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Date: Thursday, June 26, 2008, 7:52 PM

Jim  I just ran across this e-mail. What ever happened?
Have you scanned?

John

On Sun, 30 Dec 2007 12:35:50 -0800 "Jim Cox"
<nutz4coco at gmail.com>
writes:
> I'm going through a collection of magazines I inherited a while back 
> and
> sandwiched between some Hot Coco's and Color Computer News where a 
> bunch of
> "Dynamic Color News" from Dynamic Electronics of Hartselle, AL..
> 
> Bill Chapple is listed as President and both John Pearson Ph.D., and 
> Bob
> Morgan Ph.D. as consultants.  From the brief look I took at the 
> magazines,
> they look pretty informative for their size (approximately 10 pages 
> per
> issue)
> 
> If I could get permission to scan them, I would be willing to post 
> them some
> place.
> 
> Jim
> 
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From operator at coco3.com  Sat Jun 28 21:35:43 2008
From: operator at coco3.com (Roger Taylor)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 20:35:43 -0500
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <BE1127D0DD0A490180B268FCF231429B@speedy>
References: <728351.98204.qm@web80203.mail.mud.yahoo.com>
	<4857146A.8010400@embarqmail.com>
	<72277F2A-155B-4FDC-A47A-3F40513051D0@pobox.com>
	<20080617020228.AC28120A36@qs281.pair.com>
	<6B3DE24C-0E96-4BCA-8EB1-080E33B970A4@gmail.com>
	<20080617023411.6436920A33@qs281.pair.com>
	<BE1127D0DD0A490180B268FCF231429B@speedy>
Message-ID: <20080629013607.7C63420A33@qs281.pair.com>

At 10:48 AM 6/24/2008, you wrote:
>FWIW;
>
>Photos: How UPS Next Day delivers
>
>http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-207629.html

Next week I'll be the one arriving at the Shreveport/Bossier airport 
all week, except Friday, watching the jets land and takeoff.  We have 
the biggest and FedEx is a tad smaller but both are huge planes, then 
there's the little DHL jet they converted from a passenger jet (the 
windows are painted over).

What most probably don't know and won't know is that UPS carries (in 
the sky only) the U.S. Postal Service's Air packages, and is working 
Now on a deal with DHL for $1 billion a year to carry DHL's Air 
packages on our planes.  ??? Yes, you heard right.  Both rely on UPS 
to compete with?  Maybe we'll suck up DHL in about 10 years when 
they're worth something.  I think the whole idea is to maintain the 
huge lead over FedEx without ever leaving room for them to catch up, 
but who knows what the main plan is.  DHL is struggling, and FedEx is 
struggling... those two facts have been written for years, but I 
think all shippers are struggling, period.

So for those (Mary, you're one of them) who's casually uttered the 
words "UPS sucks", just remember... no matter what Next Day Air 
service you use, the chances are it is going by UPS behind your back, 
and that we suck SO bad that both the post office and DHL had to be a 
part of it?  :)  Anyway, just some humor.

Here's a few eyebrow crinkling links:

http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-147672852.html

http://www.pressroom.ups.com/pressreleases/current/0,1088,5013,00.html





From cdiman7 at flash.net  Sat Jun 28 22:34:02 2008
From: cdiman7 at flash.net (KARL SEFCIK)
Date: Sat, 28 Jun 2008 19:34:02 -0700 (PDT)
Subject: [Coco] OT chit chat with Karl
In-Reply-To: <20080629013607.7C63420A33@qs281.pair.com>
Message-ID: <585874.54736.qm@web80206.mail.mud.yahoo.com>

Roger,
 I've heard that DHL is not6 the best, maybe it's too
much the European weay, whatever. Gads, I forgot,
they're from Germany right? One of the highest of the
high cost countries in Europe, and they want it that
way to protect their 80% government pension.
   Whatever, guess it's no secret that I read Business
Week,lol, but good for UPS. With the volume of other
mail that the post office handles, they can still
compete and subcontract to UPS.
   Hey, I've got a job, kinda unofficially,lol. I'm a
skywatdcher for one of the local tv stations here in
Dallas, though it doesn't pay anything, just adds to
the weather forecasts down here.
  Karl

--- Roger Taylor <operator at coco3.com> wrote:

> At 10:48 AM 6/24/2008, you wrote:
> >FWIW;
> >
> >Photos: How UPS Next Day delivers
> >
> >http://content.zdnet.com/2346-9595_22-207629.html
> 
> Next week I'll be the one arriving at the
> Shreveport/Bossier airport 
> all week, except Friday, watching the jets land and
> takeoff.  We have 
> the biggest and FedEx is a tad smaller but both are
> huge planes, then 
> there's the little DHL jet they converted from a
> passenger jet (the 
> windows are painted over).
> 
> What most probably don't know and won't know is that
> UPS carries (in 
> the sky only) the U.S. Postal Service's Air
> packages, and is working 
> Now on a deal with DHL for $1 billion a year to
> carry DHL's Air 
> packages on our planes.  ??? Yes, you heard right. 
> Both rely on UPS 
> to compete with?  Maybe we'll suck up DHL in about
> 10 years when 
> they're worth something.  I think the whole idea is
> to maintain the 
> huge lead over FedEx without ever leaving room for
> them to catch up, 
> but who knows what the main plan is.  DHL is
> struggling, and FedEx is 
> struggling... those two facts have been written for
> years, but I 
> think all shippers are struggling, period.
> 
> So for those (Mary, you're one of them) who's
> casually uttered the 
> words "UPS sucks", just remember... no matter what
> Next Day Air 
> service you use, the chances are it is going by UPS
> behind your back, 
> and that we suck SO bad that both the post office
> and DHL had to be a 
> part of it?  :)  Anyway, just some humor.
> 
> Here's a few eyebrow crinkling links:
> 
> http://www.highbeam.com/doc/1G1-147672852.html
> 
>
http://www.pressroom.ups.com/pressreleases/current/0,1088,5013,00.html
> 
> 
> 
> 
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From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 09:09:21 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 09:09:21 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Plug-in programs - Popular Science '79 Magazine
Message-ID: <5631e580806300609v662d8875vb157eac9c951f1c4@mail.gmail.com>

Found an interesting article worth reading if only to flash back to 1979...

http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/06/25/with-plug-in-programs-anybody-can-use-these-personal-computers/

I think the CoCo was still in the final stages of its development phase
then.




-=[ Rogelio ]=-


From gene.heskett at verizon.net  Mon Jun 30 14:16:50 2008
From: gene.heskett at verizon.net (Gene Heskett)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 14:16:50 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Plug-in programs - Popular Science '79 Magazine
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806300609v662d8875vb157eac9c951f1c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806300609v662d8875vb157eac9c951f1c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <200806301416.50791.gene.heskett@verizon.net>

On Monday 30 June 2008, Rogelio Perea wrote:
>Found an interesting article worth reading if only to flash back to 1979...
>
>http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/06/25/with-plug-in-programs-anybody-can-
>use-these-personal-computers/
>
>I think the CoCo was still in the final stages of its development phase
>then.
>
I still have a TI99-4A and a few carts.  Last time I plugged it in was a decade 
ago, and it still worked just fine then.
>
>
>-=[ Rogelio ]=-
>
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>Coco at maltedmedia.com
>http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco



-- 
Cheers, Gene
"There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
 soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
-Ed Howdershelt (Author)
Of course I use Microsoft. Setting up a stable Unix network is no
challenge.

   -- From a Slashdot.org post


From neilsmorr at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 19:01:59 2008
From: neilsmorr at gmail.com (Neil Morrison)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 16:01:59 -0700
Subject: [Coco] Plug-in programs - Popular Science '79 Magazine
In-Reply-To: <5631e580806300609v662d8875vb157eac9c951f1c4@mail.gmail.com>
References: <5631e580806300609v662d8875vb157eac9c951f1c4@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <93f331ac0806301601l47eccb83j548202d78941bbc3@mail.gmail.com>

After the hours spent loading and reloading Model I Editor Assembler /
ZBug at 500 baud, a cartridge assembler looked really good to me!

Neil

On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 6:09 AM, Rogelio Perea <os9dude at gmail.com> wrote:
> Found an interesting article worth reading if only to flash back to 1979...
>
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/06/25/with-plug-in-programs-anybody-can-use-these-personal-computers/
>
> I think the CoCo was still in the final stages of its development phase
> then.

> -=[ Rogelio ]=-


From os9dude at gmail.com  Mon Jun 30 21:06:52 2008
From: os9dude at gmail.com (Rogelio Perea)
Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2008 21:06:52 -0400
Subject: [Coco] Plug-in programs - Popular Science '79 Magazine
In-Reply-To: <200806301416.50791.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
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	<200806301416.50791.gene.heskett@verizon.net>
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Earliest memory I have of the TI99-4 was on a Kmart store display (Nogales
Arizona) back in '79. Soon after the store also had the VIC20 alongside the
TI. Of the two I preferred the TI if at least because of the aesthetics, the
video display of the VIC did not help either.

On that same strip mall the local Radio Shack was a few steps away, I had
become a regular (12 years old) and the manager let me play away with the
Model I which was the coolest computer I had seen at that time anywhere.

When the CoCo showed up in the store, the first thing that got me was the
nuclear green screen, and its clean text display. Yes, only 32 x 16 but a
neat one, far preferable than the VIC's.

I am a fan of all those 8-bit marvels of yesteryear, but to the date I
remain at ease with my decision to wait for the CoCo to become my PC :-)


-=[ Rogelio ]=-


On Mon, Jun 30, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Gene Heskett <gene.heskett at verizon.net>
wrote:

> On Monday 30 June 2008, Rogelio Perea wrote:
> >Found an interesting article worth reading if only to flash back to
> 1979...
> >
> >
> http://blog.modernmechanix.com/2008/06/25/with-plug-in-programs-anybody-can-
> >use-these-personal-computers/
> >
> >I think the CoCo was still in the final stages of its development phase
> >then.
> >
> I still have a TI99-4A and a few carts.  Last time I plugged it in was a
> decade
> ago, and it still worked just fine then.
> >
> >
> >-=[ Rogelio ]=-
> >
> >--
> >Coco mailing list
> >Coco at maltedmedia.com
> >http://five.pairlist.net/mailman/listinfo/coco
>
>
>
> --
> Cheers, Gene
> "There are four boxes to be used in defense of liberty:
>  soap, ballot, jury, and ammo. Please use in that order."
> -Ed Howdershelt (Author)
> Of course I use Microsoft. Setting up a stable Unix network is no
> challenge.
>
>   -- From a Slashdot.org post
>
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