[Coco] [Color Computer] More on Hot Coco scans

Diego Barizo diegoba at adinet.com.uy
Fri Aug 15 08:29:34 EDT 2008


I just had a crazy idea....
Since I am in Uruguay, and I have access to servers located here...
Taking legal actions against someone who is +7000 miles away must be 
VERY expensive and time consuming.
If this gives anyone any idea, I'm always glad to help the CoCo bunch

Neil Morrison wrote:
> >From http://five.pairlist.net/pipermail/coco/2005-July/017380.html
>
> See also http://www.idg.com/www/idgproducts.nsf/typeform?readform&type=website
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Michael Wayne Harwood michael at musicheadproductions.org 
> Fri Jul 22 15:40:50 EDT 2005 
>
>
> This makes me very sad, but I wasn't terribly surprised by her last
> response.
>  
> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
>
>   _____  
>
> From: Michael Wayne Harwood [mailto:michael at musicheadproductions.org] 
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:33 PM
> To: 'miriam_karlin at idg.com'
> Cc: 'howard_sholkin at idg.com'
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> Miriam,
>  
> You stated earlier that IDG does not have authorities proof that IDG owns
> these copyrights.  In addition the United States Copyright office has
> records of many the "Hot Coco" magazines that list Wayne Green as the
> copyright holder, not CW Communications.  I would welcome it if you would be
> willing to provide documentation of what magazines you claim ownership to.
> If you are unwilling or unable to provide this documentation I will have to
> assume that it does not exist.
>  
> I will continue my conversations with the original authors, and if I
> discover proof that an owner has kept his copyright I will proceed as the
> situation warrants.  Since you have stated that you wish no further
> communication with me in regards to this I will assume that IDG is not
> interested in any documentation I may unearth unless you request it from me.
>  
> I will not bother you any further with this, but I am saddened at the tone
> you have elected to use to communicate IDG's position - especially since I
> have come to you in good faith and done my best to honor both your
> organization and the laws of our country.
>  
>  
> Sincerely,
> Michael Harwood    
>
>   _____  
>
> From: miriam_karlin at idg.com [mailto:miriam_karlin at idg.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 1:09 PM
> To: michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
>
> Michael, 
>
> I don't have the agreements that were originally signed.  I will not spend
> any more time on this. The copyrights are the property of IDG's subsidiaries
> and as such if infringement takes place, we will puruse legal remedies.   
>
> The End. 
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miriam
>
> ***********************************
> Miriam R. Karlin
> Manager, Legal Affairs
> International Data Group, Inc.
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
> phone 508.935.4686
> fax 508.424.4807
> efax 208.330.4742 (preferred)
> email   miriam_karlin at idg.com
> ************************************ 
>
>
>
> "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org> 
>
>
> 07/22/05 11:00 AM 
>
>
> To
> <miriam_karlin at idg.com> 
>
> cc
> <howard_sholkin at idg.com> 
>
> Subject
> RE: Hot Coco
>
> Miriam, 
>   
> I do not understand.  You stated originally "We cannot give permission
> because we do not know what rights we obtained from the author when we first
> published.", and also stated "You could try and contact the original
> author.". 
>   
> Based on these statements I assume that if I were to obtain permission from
> the authors, which I have been fairly successful in doing, then IDG would
> have no complaints surrounding our releasing articles and program code for
> general consumption.  Am I correct?  If I were to scan in, OCR, and
> re-publish the "Elmer's Arcade" series by Richard Ramella (which I have
> obtained his specific permission to do) would I receive a cease and desist
> order from IDG? 
>   
> Thank you again for your time! 
>   
> Regards, 
> Michael Harwood 
>   
>
>
>   _____  
>
> From: miriam_karlin at idg.com [mailto:miriam_karlin at idg.com] 
> Sent: Friday, July 22, 2005 8:50 AM
> To: michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Cc: howard_sholkin at idg.com; miriam_karlin at idg.com
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> Michael, 
>
> We will NOT give you permission.  
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miriam
>
> ***********************************
> Miriam R. Karlin
> Manager, Legal Affairs
> International Data Group, Inc.
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
> phone 508.935.4686
> fax 508.424.4807
> efax 208.330.4742 (preferred)
> email   miriam_karlin at idg.com
> ************************************ 
>
>
> "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org> 
>
>
> 07/20/05 11:12 AM 
>
>
>
>
> To
> <miriam_karlin at idg.com> 
>
> cc
> <howard_sholkin at idg.com> 
>
> Subject
> RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> Miriam, 
>  
> First of all I would like to thank you for your time - I truly appreciate
> your taking the effort to answer my queries. 
>  
> I have contacted several of the original authors of some of the more
> prevalent features and articles, and I am compiling a list of people whom
> are willing to give permission to re-publish their works.  If permissions
> from the original authors have been given to re-publish their works would
> that satisfy any concerns that IDG has?   
>  
> I wish to reiterate that this is a "not for profit" endeavor whose main goal
> is archival of the information and articles from Hot Coco so that they will
> not be lost. 
>  
> Regards, 
> Michael Harwood 
>
>
>   _____  
>
> From: miriam_karlin at idg.com [mailto:miriam_karlin at idg.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 19, 2005 12:44 PM
> To: michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Cc: howard_sholkin at idg.com; miriam_karlin at idg.com
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> You could try to contact the original author. 
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miriam
>
> ***********************************
> Miriam R. Karlin
> Manager, Legal Affairs
> International Data Group, Inc.
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
> phone 508.935.4686
> fax 508.424.4807
> efax 208.330.4742 (preferred)
> email   miriam_karlin at idg.com
> ************************************ 
>
> "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org> 
>
>
> 07/19/2005 10:49 AM 
>
>
>
>
> To
> <miriam_karlin at idg.com> 
>
> cc
> <howard_sholkin at idg.com> 
>
> Subject
> RE: Hot Coco
>
> Miriam, 
>
> Can I assume then that the copyright of those issues of the magazine listed
> on the US copyright site that are not marked with CW Communications is still
> owned by Wayne Green?  There are several issues that do not have CR
> Communications listed. 
>
> My understanding of the issues surrounding this is that you do not know what
> licensing agreement is in force with the original authors.  Would you be
> willing to consider this matter further if I was able to contact the
> original author and obtain their permission to re-publish their articles? 
>
> Regards, 
> Michael Harwood 
>
>
>   _____  
>
> From: miriam_karlin at idg.com [mailto:miriam_karlin at idg.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 12:00 PM
> To: michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Cc: howard_sholkin at idg.com; miriam_karlin at idg.com
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> Michael, 
>
> If you look carefully at the Hot CoCo copyrights, there is an assignment to
> CW Communications, Inc., IDG's wholly owned subsidiary. 
>
> Thank you.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miriam
>
> ***********************************
> Miriam R. Karlin
> Manager, Legal Affairs
> International Data Group, Inc.
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
> phone 508.935.4686
> fax 508.424.4807
> efax 208.330.4742 (preferred)
> email   miriam_karlin at idg.com
> ************************************ 
> "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org> 
>
>
> 07/12/2005 01:52 PM 
>
> To
> <miriam_karlin at idg.com> 
>
> cc
> <howard_sholkin at idg.com> 
>
> Subject
> RE: Hot Coco
>
> Miriam, 
>
> I understand - thank you.  I have one last question.  I looked up the
> copyright status on the US copyright site and it appears that a large number
> of magazines are listed as being under the copyright of Wayne Green, Inc.  I
> know that Wayne sold the magazine to IDG years ago, but the US copyright
> office does not seem to be aware of a change in copyright owner.  Is their
> information incorrect? 
>
> Regards, 
> Michael Harwood 
>
>
>   _____  
>
> From: miriam_karlin at idg.com [mailto:miriam_karlin at idg.com] 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 12, 2005 11:46 AM
> To: michael at musicheadproductions.org
> Cc: howard_sholkin at idg.com
> Subject: RE: Hot Coco
>
>
> Michael, 
>
> We cannot give permission because we do not know what rights we obtained
> from the author when we first published.   
>
> Sorry.
>
> Best regards,
>
> Miriam
>
> ***********************************
> Miriam R. Karlin
> Manager, Legal Affairs
> International Data Group, Inc.
> 5 Speen Street
> Framingham, MA 01701
> phone 508.935.4686
> fax 508.424.4807
> efax 208.330.4742 (preferred)
> email   miriam_karlin at idg.com
> ************************************ 
>
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