[Coco] RAINBOW scans

Derek dml_68 at yahoo.com
Wed Aug 13 23:12:58 EDT 2008


With all respect this argument has been tossed around this e-mail list for how many years now? Now we have to ask ourselves if we want to let all this information die with time or if we want to preserve it.

I think trying to rely on the Rainbow in Disc project is also pretty much a dead idea. Again I would urge folks to get what they have archived out for others to download. The project of one person scanning all the Rainbow Magazines in is too big a project for one person. I have uploaded the Rainbows on Disks and Tapes that I have to the Yahoo group in my previous message. I have 3 more years of Rainbow on Disk I am working on getting converted from my real disks to .DSK format so I am willing to share what I have.

In my opinion this debate will never end and it's too much for one person to do. I believe anyone who has something to share should get it out on the web for the sake of the community.

Because we are a smaller vintage computer community than other platforms like Atari, Apple & CBM there is far less software and magazines for the coco and again there will come a day when it will all be gone and if none of what we have gets preserved then it would be a huge loss to those of us who care about the coco.

Lastly If anyone gets some bright idea about e-baying what we upload burned on a dvd then we report it to e-bay as a violation. We do have some power as a community to ensure that no one profits from our archiving.

I have never really said much about this on the list as I know it gets some folks all riled up and maybe it's just because I am hitting middle age and am nostaligic, but I think it is important that everything possible gets saved for the future.

With all respect

Derek







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--- On Wed, 8/13/08, Lothan <lothan at newsguy.com> wrote:
From: Lothan <lothan at newsguy.com>
Subject: Re: [Coco] RAINBOW scans
To: coco at maltedmedia.com
Date: Wednesday, August 13, 2008, 7:31 PM

> That said, a copyright is only as good as the enforcement. With Lonnie 
> gone I don't think anyone is interested in copyright protection of the

> Rainbow magazine. Lonnie's only concern was that he could be held
liable 
> for copyright violation if he just gave permission to let the magazines be

> freely distributed because of the contract terms with the various writers,

> or if the programs were used in some way that violated the contract. I 
> really think that was bogus, he just didn't want his "baby"
to be 
> discredited in any way. I talked to him about taking the Rainbow over 
> years ago, right before publication ceased, and he just wasn't
interested.

Rainbow had "first publication" rights with some of the authors,
which means 
Rainbow is legally allowed to publish the first copy of the article but all 
further rights remain with the author. The agreement with Lonnie effectively 
keeps Lonnie in control of the digital copies so he continues to have
"first 
publication" rights. I'm definitely not a copyright lawyer, but I
don't 
think these "first publication" rights can be transferred since
Lonnie has 
no authority over these rights. So, yes I believe you are mostly correct 
when you say Lonnie could be held liable if he allowed anyone to access 
digital copies of the magazine and anyone providing access to digital copies 
can also be held liable.

I don't know if anyone would dispute copyright given Rainbow hasn't
been 
published for so long. I certainly don't have any qualms with any of the 
articles I wrote, but all of my rights are assigned to Rainbow anyway so I 
have no legal bearing in the matter. Unfortunately, I have no idea whether 
the death of Lonnie has any impact on the digitization and distribution 
agreement so I won't say anything regarding this  lest I stick my foot 
firmly in my mouth.
 


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