[Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

[Manny]

Joel Ewy wrote:

> Manny wrote:

>> We could do with a page that is a central source for things to help

>> newbies start. I was thinking a page that would have a few tools and

>> things with a description next to the download. I haven't seen such a

>> page, and the FTPs that are around doesn't have the ease of use that I

>> was just talking about.

>>

> It would be pretty easy to set up something like that at Allen Huffman's

> CoCo Wiki site:  http://www.coco25.com/wiki/index.php/Main_Page  I know

> he'd be pleased to give you an account to get a CoCo Newbie Wiki page

> started.  I'm not sure you could host file downloads there, but there's

> no reason one couldn't link directly to the files on one of the FTP

> archives.



> And I bet Roger Taylor could be convinced to something for CoCo newbies

> on coco3.com...


I could easily host the archives or the page. But, Allen's or Roger's 
page would probably be a better place to do it.


> Whether or not it's distributed as a part of NitrOS-9, one could come up

> with an 'essential utilities' disk image culled from the archives and

> link to it from the CoCo newbie page.


I think it would help a lot to have it along side of the NitrOS-9 
release, though. That way there would be no confusion as to where it is. 
It could be downloaded when the user downloads NitrOS-9.


>> I suppose my last reason could be rectified by purchasing Ved. (Which is

>> like Vi, right? Blech! I love my Emacs. ;) )

>>

> Wrong.  Rad Shak's TS-EDIT is Vi-like (even more so with that patch).  I

> happen to have been corrupted to Vi in my youth by spending too much

> time with Elm on an NCR Tower, so I don't mind it at all.  But Ved is a

> completely different thing.  It bears more resemblance to Telewriter

> 64/128 than to Vi* or *MACS, and is a lot closer to a DOS EDIT, or a

> Windows Notepad in that it's a full-screen editor where you can use the

> arrow keys to move the cursor around, though you won't be using

> <ctrl><c> <ctrl><v> to copy and paste.  The VPRINT formatter uses very

> similar formatting codes to the ones in TW64/128.


Oh. Well I probably got these two confused then. Thanks for righting me 
on that one. I would love to try it out, in that case. But like I said 
before, I haven't the money for it. :(


>> But I can't rationalize

>> $25.00 (+ s/h) for a text editor for the CoCo right now. (Besides, my

>> wife would find out and kill me for it! I just barely got by with buying

>> Portal-9 a few years ago.) Also, no offense to Mark, but I think $25.00

>> is a little steep for a text editor for the CoCo. $10.00 - $15.00

>> would be a better range, IMHO.

>>

> At the time I bought it, I was using my CoCo on a daily basis, and it

> was well worth the price.  I think I got it along with VPRINT for

> something like $50.


Together they are $55.00 from Cloud-9. That is unless there is a special 
price with both of them together.


> At this point, like you, my budget for CoCo stuff

> falls more under the "Fun and Entertainment" line item.  I would also be

> more willing to buy CoCo software if it was in the $10-$15 range.  I

> suspect that a price point like that would likely generate more software

> sales -- especially for software that was written long ago and isn't

> being actively developed -- but I only know about my own situation.  In

> any case, VED (and VPRINT) is a good editor (despite the fact that it

> isn't anything like Vi :-) ), and I certainly don't regret the money I

> spent on it back in the day.


If I would have known about it or purchased it back in the day, then I 
would have said the same. :) But, I do agree that $10 - $15 is probably 
the sweet spot for a lot of CoCo software.

-M.