[Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

[Randy Just]

At 04:32 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>You need to load syscall *before* you run Basic09. If you have the 

>NitrOS9 (or the Tandy OS-9) distro disk(s), the syscall module 

>should be in the CMDS directory.


Looking on the Tandy OS-9 floppy #2, I do see the command.  I don't 
know if this will cause a "collision" with NitrOS9 if
I use it.  Let me try and see what happens.



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>----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Just" <randyjust at comcast.net>

>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:25 AM

>Subject: Re: [Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

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>>At 04:18 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>>>Randy, you'll need to LOAD the SYSCALL module into memory before 

>>>executing the Basic09 program.

>>>

>>>I would assume that the syscall module is on the same disk with 

>>>basic09? (/d0?)

>>

>>OK --- clueless question on my part.  How do I load the module and 

>>load makedesc.b09?  I have been

>>loading makedesc.b09 and then typing run.

>>

>>

>>

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>>>Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

>>>

>>>Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me

>>>the capacity to be his spokesman,

>>>so that I know how to help the weary.

>>>

>>>website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl

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>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Just" <randyjust at comcast.net>

>>>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 10:15 AM

>>>Subject: Re: [Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

>>>

>>>

>>>>

>>>>Here is the latest.  After thinking there might be read errors, I 

>>>>went ahead and made a back-up of

>>>>the floppy giving problems.  I tried a few different drives I 

>>>>have sitting around here and seem to have

>>>>been able to copy the files to another floppy giving better results.

>>>>

>>>>makedesc.b09 is now loading without errors.

>>>>

>>>>However, after going through the series of questions, it is 

>>>>erroring out at:

>>>>

>>>>#4A18   RUN Syscall($17, regs)

>>>>ERROR #043

>>>>BREAK: PROCEDURE Makedesc

>>>>

>>>>I am trying to do this on a single drive machine.

>>>>

>>>>Please advise.

>>>>

>>>>At 03:01 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>>>>>Randy,

>>>>>is there any way you can get that code to me, so I can PACK it 

>>>>>into a runb-type module?

>>>>>Even if you snd a disk image of the source disk, I could work with it.

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>--

>>>>>Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

>>>>>

>>>>>Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me

>>>>>the capacity to be his spokesman,

>>>>>so that I know how to help the weary.

>>>>>

>>>>>website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl

>>>>>my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/

>>>>>

>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Just" <randyjust at comcast.net>

>>>>>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:49 AM

>>>>>Subject: Re: [Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Doing a list /d1/IDE2.1/makedesc.b09 displays readable code.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>I tried the #24K --- still no go.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>Very frustrating.  I don't really care if I go the makedesc.b09 

>>>>>>route or ezgen route to get the hard drive up and running.  Just

>>>>>>would like to be able to use it at some point here.  The hard 

>>>>>>drive is sitting alongside my Coco looking both happy and depressed

>>>>>>all at the same time.  Happy it is recognized, but depressed it 

>>>>>>can't start storing Coco files.

>>>>>>

>>>>>>At 02:43 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>>>>>>>Randy,

>>>>>>>Gene's comment certainly makes some sense, although with a 

>>>>>>>.B09 extension, I'd be confident that it is a Basic09 source 

>>>>>>>file. If that's the case, you should be able to do this:

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>list /d1/IDE2.1/makedesc.b09

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>If this results in garbage all over the screen, then it is a 

>>>>>>>PACKed module, and must indeed be executed by RUNB (although 

>>>>>>>Basic09 *does* know how to execute packed modules).

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>For the life of me, I don't understand why the source code 

>>>>>>>wasn't supplied in packed form in the first place, *unless* it 

>>>>>>>was meant to be modified by the end user, which is IMHO not a good situation.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>TO ALL:

>>>>>>>Are there any users here which have done what Randy is trying 

>>>>>>>to do with the Glenside IDE controller software?

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me

>>>>>>>the capacity to be his spokesman,

>>>>>>>so that I know how to help the weary.

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl

>>>>>>>my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Just" <randyjust at comcast.net>

>>>>>>>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 8:27 AM

>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Thanks for your response.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Tried using /d0/BASIC09 #16K

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>Unfortunately, it seems to have gone from bad to worse.  Now 

>>>>>>>>I get an ERROR #032 followed by

>>>>>>>>about 15-20 ERROR #074 messages.

>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>At 02:17 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>>>>>>>>>Randy,

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>> From that error report, I'd suggest that basic09 does not 

>>>>>>>>> have enough memory for the size of the basic09 procedure 

>>>>>>>>> file that you're trying to run.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>load basic09 with extra memory, like this:

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>/d0/BASIC09 #16K

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>then proceed with loading the file as you describe.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>--

>>>>>>>>>Regards, Bob Devries, Dalby, Queensland, Australia

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>Isaiah 50:4 The sovereign Lord has given me

>>>>>>>>>the capacity to be his spokesman,

>>>>>>>>>so that I know how to help the weary.

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>website: http://www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevasl

>>>>>>>>>my blog: http://bdevries.invigorated.org/

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>----- Original Message ----- From: "Randy Just" 

>>>>>>>>><randyjust at comcast.net>

>>>>>>>>>To: "CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts" <coco at maltedmedia.com>

>>>>>>>>>Sent: Monday, November 05, 2007 7:52 AM

>>>>>>>>>Subject: Re: [Coco] Glenside IDE Hard Drive Interface --- HOW-TO

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>1347 ERROR #069

>>>>>>>>>>111A ERROR #069

>>>>>>>>>>10CF ERROR #069

>>>>>>>>>>0FF5 ERROR #069

>>>>>>>>>>0FBC ERROR #069

>>>>>>>>>>ERROR #032

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>The above are errors encountered when trying to load 

>>>>>>>>>>makedesc.b09 from a floppy disk.  No files are

>>>>>>>>>>being read from the hard drive at this time..  I am trying 

>>>>>>>>>>to get a boot diskette set-up so I can format the

>>>>>>>>>>hard drive.  At least I believe that is the process.  At 

>>>>>>>>>>this point I have a virgin hard drive.

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>At 01:41 PM 11/4/2007, you wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>Randy Just wrote:

>>>>>>>>>>>><snip>

>>>>>>>>>>>>I am working with the assumption I load BASIC09 (i.e. 

>>>>>>>>>>>>/d0/BASIC09) up first and then do a

>>>>>>>>>>>>load /d1/IDE2.1/makedesc.b09

>>>>>>>>>>>>Doing the above results in errors.

>>>>>>>>>>>><snip>

>>>>>>>>>>>>Using idedetect.b09, the drive is detected, so I am 

>>>>>>>>>>>>assuming I am good there.

>>>>>>>>>>> ><snip>

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Whenever you are trying to get help with a problem, you 

>>>>>>>>>>>must supply as much information as possible on the 

>>>>>>>>>>>problem. So, what errors are you getting? The specific 

>>>>>>>>>>>errors, number or text content, is crucial information.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Your problem could be bad hardware, drive or interface. It 

>>>>>>>>>>>could be software corruption, bad disk. It could be 

>>>>>>>>>>>missing driver and descriptor, mismatched OS-9 boot file. 

>>>>>>>>>>>The errors produced in attempting to load makedesc.b09 can 

>>>>>>>>>>>help narrow down the choices. That idedetect.b09 works, 

>>>>>>>>>>>does suggest as you mentioned that the hardware is good.

>>>>>>>>>>>

>>>>>>>>>>>Without more information, it seems strange that a required 

>>>>>>>>>>>file to access the hard drive would be placed on the hard 

>>>>>>>>>>>drive. That would be a "catch-22" situation. You ought to 

>>>>>>>>>>>have access to makedesc.b09 from the same location as idedetect.b09.

>>>>>>>>>>>

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