[Coco] OT -- PC needs TWO Shut Downs
KnudsenMJ at aol.com
KnudsenMJ at aol.com
Mon Apr 3 23:08:51 EDT 2006
In a message dated 4/3/06 10:45:49 PM Eastern Daylight Time,
robert.gault at worldnet.att.net writes:
>Power Management could have an effect on this as could the BIOS shutdown
>entries. As these vary from system to system, your on your own here. Just
>make sure the entries seem reasonable.
Funny you should mention this. The two-shutdown problem *may* have started
when I twiddled some of those settings to *disable* power saving, back when I
thought my HD was having problems spinning back up after a standby or
hibernation. I may have the BIOS and Windows set for conflicting approaches to
But these wouldn't cause the two-attempts problem, I don't think.
>There is a program that is better than CTRL-ALT-Delete for displaying what
>is running in the background. EndItAll http://www.pcmag.com/utilities/
>displays much more information on what is running and has the ability to
>shut stuff down.
OK, thanks. I often wonder just what's going on (and why my modem lights
are blinking when I'm not reading mail, etc.).
But Ctrl-Alt-Del window does have the ability to shoot down hung programs
(like AOL on occasion -- poorly written thread code galore).
>I've seen occasional problems on my system which seem to stem from
>combinations of nVidia drivers and DirectX versions relating to shutdowns.
>No real solution but some games aggravate the problem.
The DirectX probably got updated last time I hit the MS site. I don't run
any action games on this box -- just slow stuff like Spider and backgammon. I
do sometimes play DVDs on it.
>It is interesting that you can power off and not require a ScanDisk run.
I hope I didn't misspeak here -- I mean that, after my two shutdown tries,
when sometimes the PC doesn't power off, I can power down OK. Windows has
synched the file systems, so in its own mind the PC is shut off. If I power
down the UPS after just the first shutdown attempt, with the Windows desktop
still showing, for sure I'll get dchecked.
>That indicates the drives powered down correctly but the video did not turn
>off. Could be a video driver problem and you could try and update.
The video is shut down to the extent that only a text cursor shows on the
screen. Keyboard is dead.
>You could also look at msconfig/Advanced make sure that fast shutdown is
I know I've twiddled with that mode. I thought it was better to have it on.
I think you're saying it might improve the power shutdown phase?
> You should certainly try several shutdowns without having run any
>programs to see if that makes any difference.
Yep, might try that tonite even.
> Microsoft Knowledge Base has
>some suggestions for troubleshooting shut down problems that are worth
The question is whether I should be worried enough to bother wading thru
those web pages. Some of you think I should be verrrrry scared! Thanks, Mike K.
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