[Coco] RE: [Color Computer] Re: Why USB would be nice.

[Ray Watts]

For God's sake, Glen, why don't you bite the bullet and totally drop ALL 
arguements?  Everyone on the board knows your opinions.  Why must you 
keep rehashing them over and over?  For the record, I don't really care, 
from my own viewpoint, whether a USB project for the CoCo gets off the 
ground or not.  However, many on this board DO care and I wish them the 
good fortune of achieving that goal.

I believe you have been among the many who have been avidly supporting 
the recording of The Rainbow on DVD, or whatever.  I spent weeks 
deleting arguements, pro and con, about PDF, DJVu, legal arguements, 
etc.  It was the worst influx of spam I have ever received.  Worse than 
the Princton Board, and it was all CoCo related.  My belief is that it 
is a total waste of time, based upon the content you will receive vis a 
vis the cost and effort put into it.  My only arguement here, however, 
is that I remained SILENT about it until now.  I only mention it here as 
an example of expected group behavior and how an opposing individual has 
nothing to gain by constant bickering.  You will note that many notables 
on this board remain silent when various projects are discussed.  Odds 
are that they oppose, or at least are indifferent to the effort but do 
not wish to discourage those who are willing to apply much time and 
energy for the benefit of the CoCo.

Lastly, I have been doing things with the CoCo over the last 10 years 
that only I have been interested in  attempting.  Occasionly, one of 
them is briefly mentioned.  Unless some people begin pounding on the 
bandwidth about them, I find no need to argue and bicker over their 
importance.  They are important to me because it is MY hobby.  This is 
true for everyone on this board.  Please give them this respect.

Thank you.
 

Glen VanDenBiggelaar wrote:

>Ok, as, I said before, I have given up on this argument. As someone else
>stated before (against my arguments) "Not all people have these". I myself
>only use 6 USB devices on my PC. A optical mouse, a USB (ps2 type) game pad
>and an Epson printer, scanner and web Camera. I only own one Compact flash
>card (32 Meg) for my Visor and I rarely use that with the PC. None of these
>devices(except the optical mouse) that could be any use on the CoCo. A "game
>pad" is not a device that is suited for the CoCo. I have not seen a
>"Joystick" similar to the coco (or Atari etc) in many years USB, or
>otherwise. With both analog and digital signals coming from the game pad I
>wonder how the CoCo would react to it.
>That's why I asked why. A P/S 2 keyboard works JUST as well, if not better
>than any USB keyboard, and I can pick up them here in Canada for less then
>$10 brand new, and I do no need to get a hub. I have gone through 2 USB
>optical mice in the last 5 years (Logitech), but my original mouse for my PC
>(old COM port model) still works to this day (just have to clean it every
>other week). My point is USB devices may in fact "be cheaper" to replace
>(now) but the life span of these products just doesn't hold up. The cheapest
>USB floppy drive this morning on the futureshop website was $44.97. Like I
>have said before, Any computer store sells internal floppy drives for less
>than $10. I am not rich, but even for my PC, and all the PC's I build for
>clients (I build at least 1 a week), an internal floppy drive is only what I
>use. I only use P/S 2 keyboards, unless the client wants wireless, and then
>I set him up with units that have both P/S2 and USB making it the Clients
>choice.
>This is the last comment I will make on the subject. Like I said ALWAYS I
>never said "don't do it", But I will see if and when it does come out, if I
>can justify the expense. I can and will immediately justify a controller
>that will use regular 3 1/4 drives. I also would be will to pay up to a
>hundred dollars the controller alone, as I have a stockpile of at least 50 3
>1/4 drives from old computers kicking around. If I want a Compact flash
>reader, I will have one with The IDE controller. I have an empty FD500 case,
>just waiting for both a Hard Drive and a 3 1/4 drive to be put in them.
>Again this is THE LAST thread I will comment to. I AM missing the point, I
>know I am, I just don't get it.
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etc., etc., etc. ad nauseum!!!

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