[Coco] RE: [Color Computer] Re: Why USB would be nice.
glenvdb at hotmail.com
Thu Sep 1 18:20:53 EDT 2005
Ok, maybe, I am missing the point.
WHY? WHY spend money on stuff we already have (I don't want to throw out my
old printer, joystick, keyboard,mouse etc) just to spend money on a new on.
I have a perfectly good 1990 pontiac car. it runs, it gets me where I need
to go. Why by a new car just because it has a cup holder? Yes my car is old
and the paint is falling off, but it still has a lot of life left in it
I tell you what, when you get that USB, I will gladly take all your old
periferals off your hands.
So far you have not given any Valid reason other than "IT CAN BE DONE".
I know most existing controllers dont work with new floppies, but I see MUCH
more of a need to build one than USB. Have you seen the price of a USB
floppy? over $50 dollars here in Canada. less than $10 for a regular one.
$50 for USB floppy
maby $50 for USB controller = alot more than I wish to pay.
$50 for a "new" Floppy controller
$10 Drive (X2 for a double system) is still only $70 and cheap to replace.
Floppy disks can be bought anywhere here in Canada (my local corner store
has them, Safeway, 7-11 just about anyware. You need only walk about 5 min
in any direction). Compact flash is avalible at Futureshop, Bestbuy etc, so
it is not as easy a a floppy to obtain.
Yes, A set of XP boot disks are avalible for free from Microsoft, or you can
download them from the website. (although they just might only be avalible
to OEM System Builders like myself- I will have to look into it).
I am not looking for a magic bullet, just some justification on why USB is
so sought after. So far, other than the "cool factor" no real facts have
been brought forward. I went over all of this in the last thread though, and
no one then could bring forward a valid point.
> > usb interface, what real Benifate is it? We all know that hooking up
> >devices like a digital camera or a scanner will not be fesable on the
> >so we are left to hook up devices we ALREADY have and were designed (all
>There is a huge difference between a CoCo serial pack and a USB serial
>interface. Same goes for CoCo joystick vs a Playstation type joypad.
> >admit some rather slow) to work with the CoCo. Why hook up a USB floppy
> >drive when a we have or can make newer controlers for a floppy?
>Most existing controllers don't work with high density floppies do
>they? Not many 720K disks still being made either. New controllers
>will probably cost as much as a USB interface so why create a new
>floppy interface? On top of that there are 2x speed USB floppy
>drives... something a new floppy controller won't accomplish.
> > So far NO
> >one has given "The killer applcation" for USB, they are just
>You want a magic bullet to make over the CoCo into a new machine. A
>new machine is the only thing that will do that.
>You say rehashing but the USB devices work better than the old ones
>and when one interface is much cheaper than a bunch of them why keep
>beating the old dead horse... er... hardware.
> >more. Compact flash is already being dropped for never forms like SD
> >but floppies will always be a universal standard. Can you see Microsoft
>Uh, yeah... and the floppy controller is being dropped from more and
>more PC motherboards.
> >selling a compact flash card to "Boot" from?
>Funny, I can boot from a USB flash drive if I want and hasn't
>Microsoft stopped including boot floppies?
>I dunno... perhaps Canada is a little different.
> > not in this day and age when
> >floppies are so much more abundant.
>Well... actually most of the people I know don't use floppies in their
>PCs. With USB flash drives on sale as low as $12 (64MB at Target a
>couple weeks ago) I don't see cost as much of an issue.
> > Network interfaces for the CoCo will not
> >be useable with USB. so that just leaves your list of stuff we
>And why not? All it needs is a TCP/IP stack and driver.
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