[Coco] Rainbow on Disc

[Mark Marlette]

The key function to me would be the OCR. Having the ability to do a
keyword search would be a GREAT asset.

Mark


Quoting "James C. Hrubik, Sr." <jimhrubik at earthlink.net>:

> All I can say, is ... WOW!  That's the most positive stuff we've (as
> a
> community) gotten from Lonnie, and it seems pretty fair to me.  I'll
> have to catalogue my collection -- i think I have most of them.
> There
> are undoubtedly going to be the production costs, like disemboweling
> the mag, then the scanning in full color, and the time involved.
>
> I have been playing with this for one of our church publications,
> doing
> the scans at 300dpi, and that produces a pretty nice .pdf copy, but
> still a large .pdf ( try http://spot.acorn.net/aacc/NL200503.pdf;
> that
> was reduced in resolution to 150dpi prior to .pdf-ing, to save space
> on
> the server).  I just scanned the cover of the December 1989 Rainbow
> at
> 300; the .tif was 22.5MB and the .pdf of the page (using Acrobat) at
> that resolution was 564KB.  The December 1989 issue had 132 pages, 65
> of which had _some_ color.  Since not all the pages of Rainbow have
> color photos, the majority can be scanned B&W.  However, the tricky
> ones will be those that have color "wallpaper" under the print, and
> that will require full-color scans of those pages to meet Lonnie's
> terms.  If anyone wants that December 1989 cover, let me know by
> private email.
>
> DVDs are really the only way to go, unless you do sets of CDs, say
> one
> per year.  (Some of the bigger issues may require two CDs per year,
> since 500K * 150 pgs * 12months = 900 megs -- that's a 24 CD set).
> You
> might even have to do sets of DVDs, since some of the issues are over
> 200 pages.  The later issues (newspaper format) will probably have
> too
> be scanned on a flatbed, sideways, with the halves stitched together
> in
> Photoshop or whatever you use.
>
> I don't see much sense in OCR-ing the project, or even going above
> 300
> dpi for quality.  It's doubtful anyone would want to print these
> things
> out on a color printer, either now or later.
>
> On Jun 8, 2005, at 11:12 AM, Michael Wayne Harwood wrote:
>
> > Here is the latest communication thread regarding what I would like
> to
> > unofficially dub "Rainbow on Disc".  I think that Lonnie's terms
> are
> > extremely fair.  At $.25 per issue the entire Rainbow archive of
> 144
> > issues could be had for $36 plus shipping and media costs.  Are
> there
> > any
> > thoughts regarding the costs or what Lonnie has proposed?
> >
> > I think we should start a discussion regarding the actual work and
> the
> > practical details involved.  Boisy has some good questions
> regarding
> > standards and consistency.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael Harwood
> >
> > ---------------------------- Original Message
> > ----------------------------
> > Subject: RE: Rainbow magazines
> > From:    "Michael Wayne Harwood" <michael at musicheadproductions.org>
> > Date:
> >   Wed, June 8, 2005 9:00 am
> > To:      mayor at prospectky.com
> > Cc:      dave at cococentral.org
> >
>
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> > ---
> >
> > Lonnie,
> >
> > Thank you very much for your quick responses and willingness to
> work
> > with
> > us to make this happen!  What you have outlined sounds fair to me,
> and
> > I
> > will forward this to the Coco mailing list to make them aware of
> your
> > proposal.  If you don't mind I would like to draft an initial
> letter
> > and
> > send it to you via email so that we can make sure that everything
> is in
> > order before I send it via snail mail.
> >
> > I am thinking of calling this project "Rainbow on Disc" and would
> like
> > your feedback regarding this choice of names as well as your
> thoughts
> > regarding the use of the Rainbow graphics, logos, etc for any
> printing,
> > websites, or other similar usage.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael Harwood
> >
> > ---------------------------- Original Message
> > ----------------------------
> > Subject: RE: [Fwd: RE: Rainbow magazines]
> > From:    "Lonnie Falk - Mayor" <mayor at prospectky.com>
> > Date:    Wed, June 8, 2005 8:01 am
> > To:      michael at musicheadproductions.org
> > Cc:      dave at cococentral.org
> >
>
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> > ---
> >
> > Michael:
> >
> > I am not really interested in making money, but in protecting
> > copyright. I
> > would think 25 cents per issue of the magazine would be sufficient.
> I
> > just
> > got off the phone with my legal eagle, who says the amount has to
> be
> > more
> > than a "token" and he feels 25 cents or more per issue would be
> > sufficient
> > to accomplish that.
> >
> > We would also want:
> >
> > 1. One copy of each CD (or whatever) you produce. I assume you are
> not
> > planning on burning custom copies. That would certainly drive you
> > crazy.
> > If you are planning on doing that, we'll have to re-think archival
> > copies
> > on this end.
> >
> > 2. That if being offered as issues, the issue must be done
> completely,
> > ads
> > and all. That is, an image of the issue.
> >
> > 3. That whatever "printing" appears on the disk label, packaging
> and
> > advertising, the phrase "Content copyright (c) by Rainbow Magazine
> and
> > Falsoft Inc., 1980-2005, all rights reserved. Offered under license
> to
> > (whatever or whoever). May not be reproduced in whole or in part."
> >
> > 4. An "accounting" of copies sold and appropriate funds to cover
> the
> > license on a quarterly basis, say January, April, July and October,
> in
> > the
> > form of a check so there would be a paper trail for me.
> >
> > You could send me a letter to 5803 Timber Ridge Dr., Prospect, KY
> 40059
> > outlining these conditions and signed. I would respond with a
> letter
> > approving. I'd suggest you draft up the letter and email it to be
> sure
> > we
> > don't get into sending letters back and forth if there is any
> > discussion
> > about language.
> >
> > As to quality, I think that would be up to you. My experience is if
> you
> > put out a crummy product, then you are not going to sell any. Or,
> at
> > least, not many.
> >
> > My only suggestion is that, as you may or may not be aware, HP has
> come
> > out with a new DVD-CD burning technology called LightScribe that
> > "burns"
> > an image on the "label side" of a disk right in the drive. You just
> > flip
> > the DVD or CD over. It is a little slow, is all in greyscale, but
> they
> > say
> > they will have a speedup out in the next month or two. I've gotten
> rid
> > of
> > all my "Stompers" and the like in favor of it. The greyscale looks
> > rather
> > elegant, I think.
> >
> > Lastly, I think it would be counterproductive to have both you and
> Dave
> > doing the same thing. You were first to suggest this, so you get
> first
> > chance to say yea or nay. Let me know what you think.
> >
> > Best
> > Lonnie
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Michael Wayne Harwood
> [mailto:michael at musicheadproductions.org]
> > Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2005 8:21 AM
> > To: mayor at prospectky.com
> > Cc: dave at cococentral.org
> > Subject: [Fwd: RE: Rainbow magazines]
> >
> > Lonnie,
> >
> > Thank you for your quick reply.  I would like to discuss the costs
> of
> > licensing electronic reproductions with you.   What exactly do you
> > have in
> > mind in regards to both the cost and other practical issues such as
> > quality control??
> >
> > Regards,
> > Michael Harwood
> >
> >
> >
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