[Coco] Rainbow in PDF! And Hot COCO! And Color Computer Magazine!

Michael Wayne Harwood michael at musicheadproductions.org
Tue Jun 7 16:58:49 EDT 2005

Does anyone know who to contact in regards to gaining permission to
archive Hot Coco and Color Computer Magazine??  Also does anyone have a
issue list for any of the "big three" Coco peridicals?

Michael Harwood

> I emailed Lonnie Falk in regards to the project I proposed to him way back
> when.  I don't know what success you guys have seen in contacting him but
> I figure it's worth a shot.  I used the email address from the Prospect
> web page (mayor at prospectky.com) and received an anti-span reply that let
> me verify that I was a real sender, so I assume the message got to his
> inbox.  If there is a better address could someone please let me know???
> If we are considering doing a "share" project perhaps we should start
> accruing a list of who has what magazines so that we can determine what we
> are missing as a community.
> I am going to start scanning in my own collection and will provide a list
> of what magazines I have over the next few weeks.  I figure that if the
> best I am able do is to preserve what I currently have I am ahead of the
> game.  I do not want to do anything illegal or unethical, and I assume
> that we are all of one mind about this.  I am not sure what this means
> practically....
> Thoughts?
> Regards,
> Michael Harwood
> (Any spelling errors are intenshunal)
>> On Mon, 2005-06-06 at 20:34 -0600, Michael Wayne Harwood wrote:
>>> I'm new to the list so I may have missed some of this conversation.  I
>>> purchased a flatbed scanner with a document feeder last year just for
>>> this
>>> purpose, but after contacting Lonnie I was fairly discouraged and
>>> haven't
>>> started the project.  He said he would be willing to work out some sort
>>> of
>>> payment plan so that scanned versions could be sold, but the cost was
>>> still very high and I didn't think the COCO community would go for a
>>> huge
>>> cost item.  His site is selling some of the older editions for as much
>>> as
>>> $9!
>> I actually find that *very* encouraging. I'm sure he'd allow a discount
>> for a "complete" set purchase rather than one-off copies.
>> The good thing is that he's not just hoarding the intellectual
>> property... he's willing to entertain the idea.
>> Does anyone have any evidence of average price for rainbow magazine
>> issues on Ebay? We should probably go to him with that kind of
>> information in hand, as well as the average lot sizes so you could
>> figure in what someone would really pay given shipping, etc. to get a
>> complete collection and then work down from there.
>> Plus he ought to see reason and allow some profit to the those doing the
>> work of getting it into digital form. That amount could be distributed
>> to the folks scanning the documents, or placed in a fund for programming
>> or hardware-design bounties, or something like that.
>> The DVD would have to be less... PDF copies are not nearly as valuable
>> as printed copies to a collector.
>> Just business. Once it's in distribution, he might allow playing with
>> the price to find the sweet spot for sales.
>>> I do not have a complete collection, and many of the issues are in
>>> somewhat sad shape.  I managed to get my hands on a few Hot COCO's and
>>> Color Computer Magazine's as well.  I would love to recreate my entire
>>> COCO magazine collection and archive it before time and environement
>>> destroys the printed versions completely.
>>> What would you guys consider "high quality"??  After doing some initial
>>> scans I found that the quality I was willing to live with ended up
>>> being
>>> so large in size that I was going to be lucky if I got one of the
>>> smaller
>>> magazines on a single CD.  DVD is workable, but still somewhat cost
>>> prohibitive for a large collection.  There is also the issues related
>>> to
>>> DVD and CD degredation over time - even if stored properly and used
>>> seldom
>>> they won't last forever.  Any thoughts?
>> I dunno. DVD seems workable.
>> As to bit-rot: we could use a utility to add an error correcting code to
>> each file. And reserve space for, say, a 50meg "Damn Small Linux" mini
>> linux distribution so that the DVD can boot itself and make as many
>> backup copies as you need... just have to remember to make a new image
>> every few years. I think that would solve the bit-rot problem once and
>> for all, and would probably interest other vintage documentation
>> collectors.
>> You can get about 13gig onto a Mini-DV tape w/ error correcting code
>> which can withstand a pin-sized hole in the tape.
>> But not everyone has mini-dv.
>>> I would certainly be willing to participate and contribute to the
>>> effort
>>> -
>>> I feel like I should start with my own copies before making overtures
>>> about my level of committment, but I am motivated to save my poor
>>> magazines!!
>> I'd be willing to sacrifice some of mine. That's what makes it good to
>> have a collective effort... everybody only has to donate a few of their
>> copies.
>> -- John.
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