[Color Computer] Re: [Coco] why you should stick with pdf

[Gene Heskett]

On Monday 11 July 2005 15:22, proteanthread at yahoo.com wrote:
>I would have to agree with John on this; Even though jpg is a "new"
>standard compared to gif, gif as a standard is still around and
> still widely used, it just means that you have to pay royalty fees
> to whomever owns the gif format now;

Wrong.  Except in a small area of europe where the patent registration 
may have a few weeks to run yet, gif is 100% public domain, you 
aren't paying Sperry/Univac a cent these days.

> pdf is beyond that, i don't 
> see adobe asking for royalty fees everytime someone publishes a
> document in pdf format.  Given the amount of documents already in
> pdf format, it will be around for a very very long time.  At this
> point I doubt djvu will catch on (it may or may not) as pdf has.
>
If I may add a comment re the relative compression ratios between 
these two antagonists, pdf's compression can be pushed far harder 
than it commonly is.  Its own level 1.2 reference manual, which I 
once printed here at 408 pages, is IIRC, a bit less than 8 megabytes.

If pushed to the wall, I'd expect pdf to pretty well match the 
commercial djvu in terms of output size.  At that point, one should 
compare the cpu cycles used to do the compression.
And of course theres the fact that pdf has been around what, 20 years 
now that I'm aware of, so its mature, but young enough to be around 
for another 50 or so before its really considered to be excessively 
long in the tooth.
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>Woodzy
>http://www.rtdos.com
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>-----Original Message-----
>From: John W. Linville <linville at tuxdriver.com>
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>Sent: Mon, 11 Jul 2005 14:10:45 -0400
>Subject: Re: [Color Computer] Re: [Coco] why you should stick with
> pdf
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>  On Mon, Jul 11, 2005 at 11:34:46AM -0600, Michael Wayne Harwood 
wrote:
>> Thanks for your input!  As a FYI - the DjVU format has been
>> released
>
>to the
>
>> public as an open standard.  I would imagine that it will be
>> around
>
>for a
>
>I do not share your optimism, at least not to the level that I'm
> sure PDF will
>be around.
>
>> while, but at the very least you would be able to use the tools
>> that
>
>are
>
>> available now to view and/or convert the documents to whatever
>> format
>
>you
>
>> desire as long as you do not redistribute the content or converted
>> documents.
>
>Sure, as long as I mothball a complete, working system every 3-5
>years so that I can do the conversion chain...no, thanks...
>
>John
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