[Coco] Re: OT - old cabinet radios

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Fri Mar 26 18:49:31 EST 2004


I've got an old Zenith cabinet radio from the late 40s myself. I'm taking the easy way out though. Mine has a row of three knobs across the bottom of the dial. They are about the right spacing for an old model shaft type car radio. I'm going to one day strip the chassis and leave the original dial in place and mount modern guts, probably a car radio but may rewire a small portable instead. I know it's not restored, but I'm not so interested in value. I will keep as much of the old chassis intact as possible though, just in case someone wants to attempt a total rebuild later. It would need everything replaced and rewired -- it sat out in the weather a few years but I managed to save the cabinet, just had to replace one leg that rotted. I used black velvet on the speaker grille -- looks good anyway!

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> Message: 1
> Date: Thu, 25 Mar 2004 15:25:03 -0000
> From: "chazbeenhad" <chazbeenhad at hotmail.com>
> Subject: [Coco] Re: [Color Computer] Really need OS-9 help
> To: ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com
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> --- In ColorComputer at yahoogroups.com, Gene Heskett 
> <gene.heskett at v...> wrote:
> > On Tuesday 23 March 2004 23:38, chazbeenhad wrote:
> > > For some reason my OS-9 isn't letting me use wildcards.
> > >I'm using Shell+ 2.1. The copy command I'm trying to use even says
> > >it supports wild cards under Shell+ , but I get nothing.
> > >
> > > copy *.* -w=/h0/temp2 gives me Error 215 - Bad Path Name Can't 
> Copy
> > >*.*
> > >
> > Humm, its been a while, but ISTR that you had to turn it on by 
> putting 
> > a colon in front of the command, like this maybe?
> > 
> > :copy *.* -w=/h0/temp2
> > 
> > Note however that a full directory will expand beyond the cli 
> buffer 
> > that shell uses, with "unpredictable results".
> > 
> > >Anyone have any ideas??
> > >
> > >Charlie
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> Using : copy *.* -w=/h0/temp2 worked great. Thank you very much!
> 
> Charlie
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 02:27:56 -0500
> From: James Dessart <james at skwirl.ca>
> Subject: [Coco] gcc6809 bug
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> This bug was fixed on my end for a while, but I just got around to 
> committing it to CVS in the gcc-coco project at sourceforge. The bug 
> would occur when subtracting a register from a constant, for example:
> 
> x = 1 - x;
> 
> The compiler with the bug would generate an internal compiler error for 
> this case. The fix is to m6809.md, in CVS. If you use gcc6809, I would 
> recommend updating your source files from CVS and rebuilding.
> 
> In the mean time, I'm going to work on getting a Mac OS X binary up on 
> sourceforge. If someone would be so kind as to provide a build based on 
> the latest sources for linux-x86 and cygwin, that'd be great!
> 
> James
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> Message: 3
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 05:26:09 -0500
> From: "Dave Poitras" <dave at cococentral.org>
> Subject: [Coco] FD 502 Floppy controller
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> Someone on this list posted that he wanted a FD 502 controller, well I found
> one that has not been opened.  If you still want one let me know.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
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> Message: 4
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 07:13:31 -0500 (EST)
> From: Aaron Banerjee <spam_proof at worldnet.att.net>
> Subject: Re: [Coco] OT- Old Radio Help Request
> To: smostrom at mn.rr.com
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> 
> That sounds very similar to a radio I just bought at an antique store in
> Warrenton, VA.  Mine is a Zenith with the same type of dial, similar
> tubes, same 6 buttons, etc.  Mine is a cabinet with a phonograph in a
> drawer which slides out (electronically independent of the radio).  The
> shopkeeper had a tag on it saying it was from around 1938-1940, but wasn't
> 100% sure.  I suspect yours is from a similar era (it's probably the same
> radio as mine in a slightly different case).
> 
> In my particular case, I'm getting a hum.  The shopkeeper said they could
> pick up a radio station with it, but I sure can't.  I haven't taken it
> apart yet, but I suspect that they've used wax capacitors, which decayed
> over time and became conductive (I've had this problem in some of my other
> radios).  The tubes seem to be fine.
> 
> Good luck with your radio.  They're a lot of fun.
>                  - Aaron
> 
> On Tue, 23 Mar 2004 smostrom at mn.rr.com wrote:
> 
> > Sorry for the off-topic question, but I was able to get back out to the family 
> cabin over the weekend (lake still frozen solid, but most of the snow is gone 
> now), and got some more information about our cabinet radio.  Hopefully some of 
> you who volunteered help can add more information.
> > 
> > The radio is a Zenith, but I could find no date or model number.  A tag inside 
> reads, "Made in USA by Zenith Radio Corp.  S693466"  Another sticker reads, 
> "Zenith Radio, Chasis Model 1005, Watts 95, Volts 117, Cycles 50-60".  The face 
> of the radio has a central dial divided into 3 frequency rings, one arc in the 
> upper half of the dial and two arcs in the lower half.  The upper arc is labeled 
> "Foreign Broadcast" with a range of 6 to 18 MC.  There are many countries listed 
> around this arc.  One of the two lower arcs are labeled "Medium Wave" with a 
> range of 1.6 to 5.0 MC.  The other is labeled "Standard Broadcast" with a range 
> of 55 to 60 KC.  To both sides of this central dial are a bank of 6 switches.  
> The left set are labeled "Voice, Normal, Treble, Alto, Bass and Lo Bass".  The 
> right set of switches are labeled with what looks like radio station call 
> letters, but most of these are worn off.  Below the central dial is a round knob 
> (volume and on-off ?) with a 4-position le
>  v!
> >  er switch
> > 
> > Inside the cabinet is a vacuum tube chasis with 6 glass tubes and a collection 
> of metal cylinders and other components.  I could only read the glass on 4 of 
> the tubes.  There are two that read "6X5 GT/G", one that reads "6V6 G", and one 
> that reads "6V6 GT/G".  The other two tubes are located behind these and I could 
> not pull them out easily.  On this tube chasis is a selector switch that reads 
> "Television / Radio", but there isn't any indication that a TV is an option, but 
> this might help date the radio.
> > 
> > In the cabinet base is a board on swivels with a wire harness leading to it 
> from the tube chasis above that is labeled "Sensitivity Control for Operator".  
> It looks like there is an antenna wire attached here on a screw head labeled 
> "A", another screw head labeled "G" (ground, maybe?) and a slide switch labeled 
> "local / distant".
> > 
> > Unfortunately the power cord is extremely brittle and cracked so I didn't want 
> to plug it in to turn it on.  I'll have to replace this cord before I do any 
> testing.
> > 
> > If Dennis or any other old radio experts can help date this radio and give me 
> any pointers on how to test and fix it up, it would be great.  Also, I would 
> love to buy spare tubes from any of you that might have replacements.  Maybe you 
> know from the tubes described what the other two tubes are without me needing to 
> pull them out.
> > 
> > Thanks much for the help, and sorry again for the off-topic post, although the 
> radio is being used as my Coco3 monitor stand, if that helps!  :-)
> > 
> > -- Steve --
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> Message: 5
> Date: Fri, 26 Mar 2004 11:32:20 EST
> From: KnudsenMJ at aol.com
> Subject: Re: [Coco] OT- Old Radio Help Request
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
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> In a message dated 3/26/04 6:07:40 AM Eastern Standard Time, 
> spam_proof at worldnet.att.net writes:
> 
> > In my particular case, I'm getting a hum.  The shopkeeper said they could
> >  pick up a radio station with it, but I sure can't.  I haven't taken it
> >  apart yet, but I suspect that they've used wax capacitors, which decayed
> >  over time and became conductive (I've had this problem in some of my other
> >  radios).  The tubes seem to be fine.
> 
> Right, the wax paper "firecracker" caps are probably leaky and should be 
> replaced.
> Also so should the electrolytic caps, the big aluminum cans.   You probably 
> know that the originals should be left in place for looks, but new, smaller 
> ones should be wired underneath the chassis, after disconnecting the old ones.
> 
> You're also right in that the tubs are usually not the problem.  An exception 
> is there may be ONE bad tube, which is why the radio was "retired" 
> originally.  But it's a miracle how glass and metal tubes have held their hard 
> vacuum 
> for 50 to 80 years!
> 
> Hope your record changer is working so you can spin some 78s.  Probably have 
> to replace the pickup cartridge; those are almost always dead.
> --Mike K.
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