Oh, and the PCB sitting on top of the case in this one: > www.home.gil.com.au/~bdevries/P8280053.jpg is the RAM board. Notice the 8 x 4164 chips (or 4864). -- Regards, Bob Devries. Dalby, Queensland, Australia. Faith isn't faith until it's all you're holding on to. http://e4god.com/freeblogs/bdevries/