[Coco] Re: OS-9 GUI
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Tue Aug 10 21:29:11 EDT 2004
Rick Ulland had a good GUI menuing system for OS-9. It was sort of a cross between something like the old DOS Shell and MV, had clickable icons. I forget what he called it, if you have some of the last 268'm issues around it should be in one of his ads. Not sure what happened to Rick and his software. I know he had some hardware that never really got off the ground. Br. Jeremy would be a good one to contact about Rick and the software, he knew Rick very well, at least back then.
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:33:58 -0400
> From: John Donaldson
> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo GUI
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> Isn't this the OS9 Level 3 that Br. Jermey has running??
>
> John Donaldson
>
>
>
> Allen Huffman wrote:
>
> > Okay, in order to keep 100% compatibility, and since OS-9 has no
> > (released) provision for moveable, resizable windows, and since we
> > probably don't want to do an entire new window driver ... (do we?) ...
> >
> > The CoCo GUI could basically be a program launcher -- Windows
> > Explorer, Mac OS Finder, etc -- with the ability to browse files, do
> > standard desktop things like copy/move/cut/paste. Drag and drop to a
> > printer icon to print. Pull down menus, windows, etc. Apps could be
> > written to live inside of this environment, but clicking on other
> > types of apps could transparently launch them -- in their own screen
> > (CLEAR to flip to that screen, for example).
> >
> > Now, some things could be made to run on this GUI if we actually built
> > it to use OS-9 L2 Windowing, just like MultiVue.
> >
> > So I guess --- what's the thought? Ground up replacement, running old
> > programs on their own old style windows? Or MultiVue replacement,
> > using the Tandy Windowing environment with a new GUI on that?
> >
> > A
> >
> >
>
>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:39:21 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Emery
> Subject: Re: [Coco] NitrOS-9 newbie needs some help
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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> --- Nickolas Marentes wrote:
>
> > I do like the solid drive idea but it's beyond my price range and it still
> > neccesitates a floppy controller therefore a multi-crap interface.
> >
> > I guess I'd like an internal card that uses a CF card as the "hard
> > drive"...low power, fast, silent and NO MULTI-CRAP INTERFACE. :)
> >
> > Your Superboard won't fit into a PAL CoCo 3.
> >
> > Drivewire seems to be my destiny. :)
>
> Nick, what about *under* the motherboard? One thing I have done is to solder a
> short (about 3cm) ribbon cable with 40 pin edge connector socket directly to
> the bottom of the board. You have to cut a slot in the RFI shield (or remove
> it, your call) and cut a hole in the CoCo3 case to accommodate it.
>
> This is in my repack and holds my Speech pak, which never needs to be removed.
> I'd heartily recommend the Pro-tector if you do this, but I don't have one. I
> haven't used it for disk access, but my FDC is, in fact, on a 5 inch extension.
>
> I actually removed the edge connector altogether and soldered a 40 pin IDE
> header to the BOTTOM (very important) of the board and modified an IDE cable by
> shortening it and crimping on some edge connector sockets. I know this probably
> makes some folks cringe, but I've been using it for years. It even boots
> NitrOS-9 with an FD500, FD502 or J&M controller installed.
>
> Bob
>
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> Message: 3
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:39:58 -0500
> From: Mannequin*
> Subject: Re: [Coco] 6809 NitrOS-9 Problems
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:08:18 -0400
> "Dave Poitras" wrote:
>
> > > Thanks for trying. :) My BIOS won't allow me to set it as a 3.5"
> > 720K floppy,
> > > when I reboot saying that there are errors with the floppy
> > > drives. :(
> > >
> > > Anyone have anything else I can try?
> > >
> > > -M.
> > >
> > What is your computer & what OS? I know XP will not support a 720K
> > format. I know 98 will. Not sure 2k PRO, but I check at work
> > tomorrow .
> >
> > Are you saying you can chnage the BIOS to 720 & then you can no boot,
> > or the BIOS wil not take it?
>
> Hi Dave.
>
> The machine I'm trying to do this on is using Windows 98SE. I can set my BIOS
> that drive B: is a 720k 3.5" floppy drive, but when I try to boot, I get told,
> after it detects what IDE devices I have, that there is a floppy drive error.
> This is before Windows even gets a chance to boot, so I'm thinking that the
> BIOS, or something is the one erroring out. Not Windows. (*SIGH* Give me the
> days when everything WASN'T plug-and-pray.)
>
> -M.
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:45:41 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Emery
> Subject: Re: [Coco] 6809 NitrOS-9 Problems
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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> > >
> > > Thanks for trying. :) My BIOS won't allow me to set it as a 3.5"
> > 720K floppy,
> > > when I reboot saying that there are errors with the floppy
> > > drives. :(
>
> On my Compaq, it gave me an error every bootup as well, but it still booted and
> worked. Perhaps you should get a 3.5" drive for your CoCo. Any modern drive
> will work, just use 720K disks. If you need a 34 pin edge to pin adapter, I can
> get those cheap.
>
> Bob
>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Emery
> Subject: Re: [Coco] 6809 NitrOS-9 Problems
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>
> --- Mannequin* wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:08:18 -0400
> > "Dave Poitras" wrote:
> >
> > > > Thanks for trying. :) My BIOS won't allow me to set it as a 3.5"
> > > 720K floppy,
> > > > when I reboot saying that there are errors with the floppy
> > > > drives. :(
> > > >
> > > > Anyone have anything else I can try?
>
> Oh, did you try cussing at it really loud and hitting the monitor with the
> keyboard? ;-)
>
> *Disclaimer* do not attempt this technique.
>
> Bob
>
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> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:59:14 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Robert Emery
> Subject: [Coco] coco chat
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> Message: 7
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:00:17 -0400
> From: James Dessart
> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo GUI
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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>
> On 10-Aug-04, at 8:33 PM, David Gacke wrote:
>
> > What about a contiki like GUI? Not sure what all is there. I know
> > James
> > Dessart was looking at it, not sure where it is currently though.
>
> It's nowhere right now... Last I tried, my compiler hadn't been
> working. I'm trying to get set up again after a hard disk crash. I
> think I'll be moving to OS-9 development for Contiki, but I think I'll
> be porting uIP (the TCP/IP stack) over first.
>
> But my first order of business is getting the GD compiler to work... :/
>
> James
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:04:58 -0500
> From: Mannequin*
> Subject: Re: [Coco] 6809 NitrOS-9 Problems
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:53:13 -0700 (PDT)
> Robert Emery wrote:
>
> >
> > --- Mannequin* wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:08:18 -0400
> > > "Dave Poitras" wrote:
> > >
> > > > > Thanks for trying. :) My BIOS won't allow me to set it as a 3.5"
> > > > 720K floppy,
> > > > > when I reboot saying that there are errors with the floppy
> > > > > drives. :(
> > > > >
> > > > > Anyone have anything else I can try?
> >
> > Oh, did you try cussing at it really loud and hitting the monitor with the
> > keyboard? ;-)
> >
> > *Disclaimer* do not attempt this technique.
> >
> > Bob
>
> I used to do that... then I had to replace the motherboard, then the CPU, then
> the... you get the picture. :)
>
> Actually, I think I would get in to BIG trouble if I did that these days. I
> don't think that my wife thinks that as befitting behavior to teach my 3.5 month
> old child. ;)
>
> -M.
>
>
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> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:06:46 -0500
> From: "David Gacke"
> Subject: RE: [Coco] CoCo GUI
> To: "'CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts'"
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>
> Ah, sorry James. Hope you get that straightened out.
>
> Contiki GUI running on OS-9 would be cool.
>
>
> Dave
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> On Behalf Of James Dessart
> Sent: Tuesday, August 10, 2004 8:00 PM
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
> Subject: Re: [Coco] CoCo GUI
>
>
> On 10-Aug-04, at 8:33 PM, David Gacke wrote:
>
> > What about a contiki like GUI? Not sure what all is there. I know
> > James
> > Dessart was looking at it, not sure where it is currently though.
>
> It's nowhere right now... Last I tried, my compiler hadn't been
> working. I'm trying to get set up again after a hard disk crash. I
> think I'll be moving to OS-9 development for Contiki, but I think I'll
> be porting uIP (the TCP/IP stack) over first.
>
> But my first order of business is getting the GD compiler to work... :/
>
> James
>
>
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> Message: 10
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 20:07:14 -0500
> From: Mannequin*
> Subject: Re: [Coco] 6809 NitrOS-9 Problems
> To: CoCoList for Color Computer Enthusiasts
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> On Tue, 10 Aug 2004 17:45:41 -0700 (PDT)
> Robert Emery wrote:
>
> > > >
> > > > Thanks for trying. :) My BIOS won't allow me to set it as a 3.5"
> > > 720K floppy,
> > > > when I reboot saying that there are errors with the floppy
> > > > drives. :(
> >
> > On my Compaq, it gave me an error every bootup as well, but it still booted
> > and worked. Perhaps you should get a 3.5" drive for your CoCo. Any modern
> > drive will work, just use 720K disks. If you need a 34 pin edge to pin
> > adapter, I can get those cheap.
> >
> > Bob
>
> Oh yeah? I've always wanted to do that, but I could never find out how to do
> such a thing. I'd be interested in doing that, I would just need good
> instructions on how to do it. Does it use the same disk controller as the 5.25"
> floppies? (aka the FD-502's disk controller?)
>
> Just let me know.
> -M.
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 11
> Date: Tue, 10 Aug 2004 21:11:02 -0400
> From: "Charlie"
> Subject: [Coco] Re: Re: Re: NitrOS-9 newbie needs some help
> To: coco at maltedmedia.com
> Message-ID:
>
> >
> > > My OS-9 tells me details with error messages, Nitros-9 just tells me an
> > > error number.
> >
> > Make a new boot disk which includes os9p3_errmsg.
> >
>
> Ok, I can't seem to find this file on the Nitros9 disk 2 (?).
> I do have a file os9p3 (and os9p2) on my Tandy OS-9 setup. Do i use this
> file and if so, where would I add it (or what would I replace) to the
> standard.bl
>
> Thanks
>
> Charlie
>
>
>
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