[arg_discuss] Topic of the Week Sept. 14: Perspiration or Inspiration?
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libfli at aol.com
Tue Sep 15 20:02:40 EDT 2009
deadlines (self imposed and imposed by others) inspire me -
faced with a world of choices, deadlines force me to focus and for some reason give
me clarity.? plus i work well under loads of stress.
-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Monello <mmonello at campfirenyc.com>
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Sent: Tue, Sep 15, 2009 4:30 pm
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] Topic of the Week Sept. 14: Perspiration or Inspiration?
Didn't you just tweet that you are under deadline for an article?
;)
Mike
http://www.campfirenyc.com/
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On Sep 15, 2009, at 6:05 PM, "Burcu Bakioglu" <bbakiogl at gmail.com>
wrote:
> Inspiration comes to me in odd occasions... like when I am hiking,
> swimming,
> taking a shower, shopping... But executing that inspiration is a
> hell of a
> lot of work and requires much hair pulling and discomfort. When I
> get an
> idea I am always under the false impression that it is going to be
> easy to
> execute/write, when I start the writing process I wonder what the
> hell I was
> thinking earlier. And I don't really believe in anyone who says this
> is an
> easy process, seriously, I've been writing for over a decade and it
> ain't
> getting any easier.
>
> burcu
>
> On Tue, Sep 15, 2009 at 5:35 PM, Judy Tyrer
> <judy.tyrer at redstorm.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm a programmer. The solution to the problem ALWAYS happens on
>> the drive
>> home after beating my head against the proverbial brick wall for
>> hours at a
>> time. It's inevitable.
>>
>> As a writer (which I am only rarely paid for) the inspiration comes
>> in the
>> morning upon first waking up.
>>
>> I think it's a left brain/right brain thing. I can't write at
>> night. I
>> can't code in the morning.
>>
>> Judy
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-
>> bounces at igda.org]
>> On Behalf Of Naomi Alderman
>> Sent: Tuesday, September 15, 2009 4:57 PM
>> To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG
>> Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] Topic of the Week Sept. 14: Perspiration
>> or
>> Inspiration?
>>
>> I actually had a conversation about this recently with Andrea and was
>> *jealous as hell* when she told me that she can work on a problem and
>> know that she can then just 'leave things to [her] subconscious' and
>> reliably wake up the next morning with an idea. (Andrea, is this
>> roughly what you said?)
>>
>> It is never like this for me :-(. If I'm not at my desk working, very
>> little happens. The really great ideas, the ones that make all the
>> difference to the project, those end up coming at random times (on a
>> walk, in the pool, in the shower), but for the day-to-day 'what shall
>> I do with this next scene?' questions it is graft all the way. Sit
>> and
>> type and type and hope that something comes out.
>>
>> Dorothea Brande, if you don't know her book 'Becoming a Writer' is
>> very good on the topic of 'activities that engender ideas'. She
>> recommends setting yourself a writing (or other creative) problem,
>> musing on it for a while, and then going off to do something which is
>> fairly mindless, body-not-brain, perhaps something rhythmic and
>> peaceful like walking, rocking in a rocking chair, knitting, washing
>> up or whittling. Sometimes it's worked for me, but more often it's
>> just banging my forehead with my fist until something falls out.
>>
>> - Naomi
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 14, 2009 at 8:02 PM, David Flor <dflor71 at gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I'm a programmer by trade: I do things first, then think about them
>> later.
>>> If it takes six complete rewrites to get it right (even if some of
>>> those
>>> rewrites are done for no reason), so be it.
>>>
>>> I have a hard time sitting down and coming up with ideas on the
>>> spot.
>> Most
>>> of my ideas come out of the blue at inconvenient times: on the
>>> bus, at
>> 3am
>>> while asleep, watching a movie in the theater, in the shower... I
>>> pretty
>>> much go everywhere with a pen and paper at this point, and also
>>> have a
>> set
>>> on my nightstand (drives the wife crazy).
>>>
>>> Judy Tyrer wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I don't know about "waiting for an idea to come" as I think you
>>>> have to
>> be
>>>> actively involved in DOING and then the idea comes. It is in the
>>>> doing
>> of
>>>> the project that one opens oneself up for ideas to flow. You
>>>> can't just
>>>> watch TV all day waiting for inspiration. You have to be actively
>> involved
>>>> in what you are wanting to achieve, regardless of the media in
>>>> which you
>> are
>>>> working. Inspiration comes through perspiration, I guess. At
>>>> least,
>> that's
>>>> been my experience.
>>>> Judy
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-
>>>> bounces at igda.org
>> ]
>>>> On Behalf Of Andrea Phillips
>>>> Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 1:50 PM
>>>> To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG
>>>> Subject: [arg_discuss] Topic of the Week Sept. 14: Perspiration or
>>>> Inspiration?
>>>>
>>>> This is a question that came up on IRC a few weeks ago. There are a
>>>> few ways that creative work happens. On the one hand, there's the
>>>> Stevie Wonder model, perspiration: You work and work and work
>>>> (writing
>>>> dozens of songs a fay, and then, by the numbers, some of the work
>>>> will
>>>> be chart-toppers. Then there's the inspiration model, the
>>>> apocryphal
>>>> Voltaire writing Candide in three days: You wait until an idea
>>>> comes
>>>> to you, and then you execute it in one dizzying whirlwind until
>>>> it's
>>>> done.
>>>>
>>>> So you: Where do you fall? Skew hard one way or the other?
>>>> Someplace
>>>> in the middle? On one end and wish you were on the other?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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