[arg_discuss] Topic of the Week Aug. 31: Umbrella Term

[David Flor]

I don't know... I'm considering my next game more "interactive
fiction" than "alternate reality", but the term "IF" already has a
precedent (thanks for stealing our description, Infocom!).

Tnx & Rgds...
David Flor
Darklight Interactive

On Wed, Sep 2, 2009 at 6:12 PM, Markus Montola<Markus.Montola at uta.fi> wrote:

> Hmm,

>

> Whether A is a proper umbrella term for B or not depends I suppose on both

> the definitions of A and B. In our book Pervasive Games: Theory and Design

> (http://pervasivegames.wordpress.com) our concept of pervasive games is very

> broad, and at least according to that definition, ARGs are one of the things

> falling under that umbrella.

>

> But fundamentally, I suppose, the question is: "what do you need the

> umbrella for?" Werewolf and Art of H3ist are certainly both social games,

> but I don't see why they should fit under the same umbrella in most cases.

> One is a party (?) game for 10 people, the other is a long-lasting experiece

> for thousands. One is an emergent experience taking form from intergroup

> interactions, while the other is a somewhat planned experience. One is a

> zero-sum PVP game, other is an everyone wins -style PVE game.

>

> So... Pervasive games is one umbrella where you can put ARGs, social games

> (?!?) is another. Or puzzle games, or massively collaborative games, or

> supergames or whatever. There's an umbrella for everyone.

>

>

>  - Markus

>

>

>> ARG's as a genre of Pervasive Games has been tossed around before.

>> I see sense in it but have been shot down more than once before.

>> Lets see how long it flies.

>>

>> h

>>

>>

>> On Tue, Sep 1, 2009 at 3:10 PM, Simon Brookes

>> <simon.brookes at gmail.com>wrote:

>>

>>> How about Pervasive Games?

>>> S

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>>> Some of us, by which I mean me, have talked about the classic formula

>>> ARG as being under a yet-undefined umbrella term. What do you call the

>>> umbrella, and what do you think we SHOULD call the umbrella? Or do you

>>> think the whole umbrella concept is iffy in the first place?

>>>

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