[arg_discuss] arg list

[Christy Dena]

Hey Brian,

Perhaps I wasn't clear. I don't think we should use the list of all the
projects Hugh listed. Instead, I'm suggesting a selection of those on Hugh's
list and elsewhere. Although there is a lot of disagreement about what
qualifies as an ARG, I think we're in agreement that Hugh's list includes
non-ARG projects (Hugh was most likely making a broad sweep for the first
draft). 

I'm trying to be diplomatic here and suggesting that a curated listing may
do a better job of avoiding the 'what is an ARG' debate. That discussion is
important -- and has been a good reawakener, as Brooke says, about the ARGdb
-- but a definition of an ARG does not need to be determined for these
resources.

Best,
Christy

-----Original Message-----
From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Brian Clark
Sent: Monday, 6 April 2009 23:21
To: 'Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG'
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] arg list

Not to take away from Hugh's list at all, but I personally think we're once
again dodging what "it is" so you'll end up with "a list of brands that have
commissioned something that someone thought was close enough to being an
ARG."

If:

Christy: "The aim is to provide information for companies who are
considering commissioning an ARG."

How does this help accomplish that? 

-----Original Message-----
From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of Christy Dena
Sent: Monday, April 06, 2009 8:18 AM
To: 'Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG'
Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] arg list


Hello Hugh: Well I don't think you expected to have created such
controversy! I can see you've done a lot of work in putting that listing
together. Fantastic. :)

I actually don't think we need to figure out some clustering system for this
resource (elsewhere, yes, that would be interesting). The intention behind
the Brands resource is to show there are many companies/brands that have
commissioned ARGs. What is important therefore is the company/artist and
producer or service and how many ARGs they have commissioned. Microsoft, for
instance, have commissioned ARGs on several occasions. It is not a listing
of ARGs for media properties (eg: A.I.) but the companies that commissioned
them (eg: Microsoft). The aim is to provide information for companies who
are considering commissioning an ARG.

A quick scan through some of my files reveals some big names around the
world: McDonalds; Microsoft (Game Studio); NBC; CBS; AudiUSA; Bungie
Studios; MTV Brazil; Superinteressante; Deutsche Telekom; EMI Germany; RTL
(German Television Broadcaster); Droemer Knaur Verlag (German publisher);
Microsoft Germany; Nokia; NBC Universal; Fantasporto (Portugal); Swedish
Television (SVT); ABC; Yahoo!7; BBC; Sony; Activision; Electronic Arts; ABC
Family Television; General Motors.

So, rather than list ALL branded entertainment ARGs (and waddle into the
murky water of what is an ARG), I suggest a page that purports to only
offering a sampling. 

The same with the independent ARGs. I think a sample listing of independent
ARGs like Sammeeeees, Eldritch Errors, Chasing the Wish and their sequels,
Lockjaw, Metacortechs and so on would be enough. The aim of this resource is
not to offer a comprehensive listing of independent ARGs (there are other
great resources out there as we know!), but to show how ARGs exist outside
of branded entertainment...and that there are high-quality, successful and
artistically diverse independent ARGs out there! So, what about an arbitrary
number, say 15?, of independents that are representative of older and more
recent ARGs. Suggestions?

This is how I would recommend progressing. 

Hugh, how do you feel about this approach? I would work with you to assist
with the sampling...and whomever else would like to be involved! We could
utilize (and cite) yours and existing ARG databases and go from there.

Wohoo! Thanks Hugh for taking the time! 

Best,
Christy

-----Original Message-----
From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org] On
Behalf Of marcus.helm at gmail.com
Sent: Friday, 3 April 2009 21:04
To: arg_discuss at igda.org
Subject: [arg_discuss] arg list

I've shared a document with you called "arg list":
http://spreadsheets.google.com/ccc?key=pE0znztln2kmQruQyplrzeA&inv=arg_discu
ss at igda.org

It's not an attachment -- it's stored online at Google Docs. To open this  
document, just click the link above.

As mentioned earlier this week, I have begun compiling spreadsheet of
ARG's towards getting a listing of the all the brands that have worked
with ARGs as well as a listing of independent ARG's for ARGology.
Its attached here as an Excel spreadsheet and is very much in the draft
stage.


I urge one and all to cast an eye over it, correct mistakes and fill
any missing info including the many games that I appologise for not
including already. Im also open to persuasion about what constituties
and ARG as there are likely to be some contentious inclusions.
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