[arg_discuss] Res: Personal Influences/Antecedents

[André Sirangelo]

I was surprised by the examples of transmedia experimentation being done by soaps lately, that's really cool

Sadly I think that because of the fact that television drama in Brazil hasn't moved forward past the soap opera format, it's hard for me to regard it as a positive influence. While british and american soaps are usually seen as guilty pleasures and must be fun to watch (I like to read about the out-of-this-world plot twists and character ressurections sometimes, for a laugh), around here that's pretty much all we get. Bad acting, poor lighting, no room for experimentation, the same stories over and over. The format is exhausted but they just keep doing it, and there's no quality drama like House or State of Play or The Sopranos after that. Call me cranky, but it's kind of depressing.

Some people I know used to make comparisons between writing an ARG and writing a telenovela and I would nearly knock them unconscious. But the recent discussion made me realise that there really is a connection after all. 

I just wished people could watch soaps here knowing that there are many other ways stories can be told besides melodrama.  Oh well, maybe that's what I should try to show while writing ARGs

Andre

----- Mensagem original ----
De: Michael Monello <mmonello at campfirenyc.com>
Para: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG <arg_discuss at igda.org>
Enviadas: Segunda-feira, 4 de Fevereiro de 2008 23:28:02
Assunto: Re: [arg_discuss] Personal Influences/Antecedents

I 
agree 
about 
soaps 
and 
have 
been 
working 
with 
some 
collaborators 
to  
develop 
a 
modern 
take 
on 
them 
that 
is 
not 
quite 
an 
ARG 
but 
definitely  
cross 
media 
in 
a 
way 
that 
they've 
only 
hinted 
at 
in 
the 
past.

We'll 
see 
where 
it 
goes...

Best,

Michael 
Monello
Partner, 
Campfire
62 
White 
Street, 
3W
New 
York, 
NY 
10013
212-612-9600
http://www.campfirenyc.com



On 
Jan 
29, 
2008, 
at 
10:46 
PM, 
libfli at aol.com 
wrote:


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i 
totally 
agree 
- 
soaps 
are 
great!  
and 
i 
too 
was 
a 
guiding 
light  

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watcher.

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my 
grandmother 
got 
me 
hooked. 
.. 
sadly 
haven't 
watched 
in 
a 
long 
time.

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i'm 
pitching 
to 
some 
daytime 
people 
right 
now.  
soaps 
are 
in 
big  

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trouble..losing

>

> 

audience 
and 
i'm 
trying 
to 
coax 
them 
to 
become 
interactive.  
 
i 
would

>

> 

love 
to 
work 
on 
an 
interactive 
soap. 

:)

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>

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-----Original 
Message-----

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From: 
Andrea 
Phillips 
<andrhia at gmail.com>

> 

To: 
Discussion 
list 
of 
the 
IGDA 
ARG 
SIG 
<arg_discuss at igda.org>

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Sent: 
Tue, 
29 
Jan 
2008 
7:37 
pm

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Subject: 
Re: 
[arg_discuss] 
Personal 
Influences/Antecedents

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I 
confess, 
I 
also 
used 
to 
watch 
soaps 
- 
mainly 
Guiding 
Light 
with 
a

> 

side 
of 
General 
Hospital 
- 
but 
it 
was 
kind 
of 
a 
long 
time 
ago. 
I 
don't

> 

watch 
'em 
now, 
not 
because 
of 
any 
moral 
or 
artistic 
judgement, 
but

> 

because 
I 
don't 
manage 
to 
watch 
TV 
most 
of 
the 
time, 
even 
shows 
I

> 

really 
badly 
want 
to 
watch. 
TV 
schedules 
don't 
stick 
in 
my 
brain 
for

> 

some 
reason. 

:)

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Tying 
into 
the 
soaps, 
I've 
very 
badly 
wanted 
to 
make 
a 
romance 
ARG 
for

> 

a 
couple 
of 
years, 
now, 
but 
obviously 
not 
yet 
managed 
it. 
But 
it 
could

> 

be 
so 
awesome. 
Maybe 
when 
I'm 
done 
revising 
my 
novel 
I'll 
just 
up 
and

> 

do 
something 
like 
that 
for 
the 
joy 
of 
it.

>

> 

-- 

> 

Andrea 
Phillips

> 

andrhia at gmail.com

> 

http://www.deusexmachinatio.com

> 

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* 
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* 
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