[arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

[varin]

hehe, just did a quick search for names on nameboy.com

argnology.com and argology.com are available - I'm surprised someone
hasn't taken those yet!

Michelle Senderhauf



On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 11:38 AM,  <libfli at aol.com> wrote:

> i agree.  this is a really great idea!  i would also be willing to give some time.

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>  maybe "argsrus.com" :)

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>  From: varin <varineq at gmail.com>

>  To: Discussion list of the IGDA ARG SIG <arg_discuss at igda.org>

>  Sent: Fri, 25 Apr 2008 9:26 am

>  Subject: Re: [arg_discuss] A possible way forward?

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>  I think a website like this is a good idea. It would be nice to be

>  able to have some control over the organization of information.  I'd

>  be willing to help out, just let me know when things get rolling.

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>  oh, but www.IGDAARGSIG.org might be a little hard to remember ;P

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>  Michelle Senderhauf

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>  On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 3:00 AM, Christy Dena

>  <cdena at cross-mediaentertainment.com> wrote:

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>  >  Just a thought about a possible way forward for the ARG SIG.

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>  >  I, like many others on this list, would love to see ARGs as they are better

>  >  understood, as well as see ARGs develop in ways unimagined. One of the

>  >  continuing issues we've all spoken about many times on this list and

>  >  elsewhere, are public descriptions of ARGs, the wikipedia entry, ARG SIG

>  >  blog, ARG SIG whitepaper and so on. There has been some criticism (from

>  >  within and outside of the ARG community) of the whitepaper and wikipedia

>  >  entry - two high profile sources of information about ARGs.

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>  >  It seems to me that the reason both of these sources fail in some regards is

>  >  in their inappropriately comprehensive nature. In other words, the

>  >  whitepaper and wikipedia entry are trying to be too many things. What is

>  >  great about the whitepaper is that it brings together the various interests

>  >  and expertise of this ARG SIG. It is in some ways a mission statement for

>  >  all the possible initiatives the ARG SIG can achieve: descriptions of ARGs,

>  >  antecedents of ARGs, history of ARGs, types of ARGs, ARG design techniques,

>  >  economic models, ARGs in education & training, ARG research and so on. We

>  >  just need to address these separately, in the right place(s).

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>  >  It seems too that the ARG SIG blog and wikipedia have other obstacles too -

>  >  including lack of control over design and content (the wikipedia entry is

>  >  riddled with vanity spam). What if we got our own URL, like

>  >  www.IGDAARGSIG.org or whatever, and created our own quality-controlled

>  >  portal?

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>  >  I'm thinking of a site that provides descriptions on ARGs for artists,

>  >  producers and the press; has links to ARG resources & information on design

>  >  & economic modes as well as a much needed listing of the all the developers

>  >  working in the area. Examples of related sites on design are IPerG

>  >  (Integrated Project on Pervasive Gaming) website: http://www.iperg.org/ and

>  >  Gamasutra: http://www.gamasutra.com <http://www.gamasutra.com/>  and what

>  >  about Play Finland: http://www.playfinland.fi/ as an example of a portal

>  >  that promotes developers & their games? Also, considering many people have

>  >  important resources on their own sites, it would beneficial to provide links

>  >  to sites rather than insisting all info be housed in the one place, and

>  >  anonymously.

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>  >  Irrespective of whether a new portal is a way forward, another issue is

>  >  getting initiatives happening. I want to see more articles about design for

>  >  instance! It seems that asking people to volunteer to do things hasn't

>  >  worked so well in the past. What about a Driver & Poke model? Yes, I just

>  >  made that up. People volunteer to be Drivers of certain initiative (and

>  >  rotate amongst each other so no single person is doing it the whole time).

>  >  Those Drivers call for volunteers to do things but also directly Poke, or

>  >  request an article or something from people they feel will provide a helpful

>  >  contribution?

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>  >  And then information such as the history, design techniques and research

>  >  into ARGs can be encouraged and find their proper home, and the whitepaper

>  >  and wiki entry can go back to doing their job.

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>  >  Over to youse all to add ideas, alter ideas or blow raspberries. :-)

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>  >  Best,

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>  >  Christy

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