[arg_discuss] Introductions

[Dan Hon]

This is something that at Mind Candy we'd been through with insurers
about. Ultimately there's only so much you can do, and your insurers
will recognise that (and any decent client will require you to have
insurance even before you've opened your mouth).

I wouldn't even say that any particular fault lies with the Soho
Project - you can stick as many disclaimers as you want (and Soho
Project certainly was fine in that regard), and stupid people will
still do stupid things.

On 11/12/07, Alex Fleetwood <alexfleetwood at gmail.com> wrote:

> Shh Dan... We are all decent law-abiding folk and friends of Westminster

> City Council, and we'd like to keep it that way ta ;)

> I suppose I should tell you the story properly. The Soho Project was an

> experimental prototype commissioned by the London Games Festival Fringe as a

> sort of ARG/pervasive gaming hybrid, which required people to go out and do

> missions around Soho and film them. fictionalmedia.co.uk /

> apps.facebook.com/thesohoproject. One of those missions was entitled

> Highpoint Lowpoint - "Soho is home to some great architecture. Get in and

> get up (or down). Get to the highest and lowest points of Soho that you can

> reach. The video should start from ground level. "

>

> We meant for people to reach these points via, you know, lifts, stairs, etc.

> With permission of the owners of the building. Clearly our wording wasn't

> rigorous enough...  That's all I'm going to say, except nothing was broken

> and no-one got hurt, and the only reason I heard about it was via a friend

> of a friend (ie they didn't submit the video to the game).

>

> When creating the game, strived for a balance between inciting people to

> have fun and be creative with the need for them to act responsibly

> (disclaimers, waivers, sensibly worded missions, etc.). I think we got that

> ok-  1 bit of silliness out of 70 completed missions is a reasonable figure

> - but I do think that we have an awful lot to learn from this prototype if

> we were going to run it again.  Once a game like ours goes beyond a certain

> size, its inevitable that someone will wilfully misinterpret the rules of

> the game and cause some kind of damage. How you mitigate and respond to a

> situation like that takes some answering. Definitely something I'd be

> interested in discussing with any interested folk.

>

> Alex

>

>

>

> On 12/11/2007, Dan Hon <dan at sixtostart.com> wrote:

> >

> > Yes, please explain!

> >

> > (this may be a close tie with the Fictional Media/Soho Project game a

> > few weeks ago in London where a couple people got cautioned by the

> > police...)

> >

> > On 11/12/07, Mike Stein <mike.j.stein at gmail.com> wrote:

> > > "As a bonus, it almost got us arrested. (long story)"

> > >

> > > Wait... what?

> > >

> > > On Nov 12, 2007 6:54 AM, André Sirangelo <asirangelo at yahoo.com.br>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > > Hi,

> > > >

> > > > I'm Andre and I'm an ARG writer/developer in Brazil. I was in the

> > > > development team of a game called 'Zona Incerta' last semester,

> > produced in

> > > > association with one of the country's best-selling magazine. It was

> > great.

> > > > We learned a lot. As a bonus, it almost got us arrested. (long story)

> > > > Besides writing for a few magazines and websites, my work now is

> > basically

> > > > research and trying to convince companies (including my employers)

> > that

> > > > investing in alternate reality is a good idea. Can't wait to be part

> > of a

> > > > new game though, hopefully next year.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

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