[arg_discuss] Useful puzzle books?

[Bryan Alexander]

Thank you for the Tulse Luper lead.  I used to be a huge Greenaway fan, back in the day, but lost track of his work.  This is fascinating transmedia stuff.

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"Tlön, Uqbar, Orbis Tertius" by Jorge Luis Borges from 1940 strikes me as
proto-argish. More info:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tl%C3%B6n%2C_Uqbar%2C_Orbis_Tertius

I'm also told Peter Greenaway has done some interesting things with his
project Tulse Luper, which is kind of all over the place on the
net. Here are some good starting points:

http://petergreenaway.co.uk/
http://www.tulseluper.net/
http://www.tulseluperjourney.com/

For anyone interested in just plain puzzle books, a recent one is called
"The Mammoth Book of Secret Codes and Cryptograms" by Elonka Dunin.

I agree the overlay of wacky puzzles ontop of most ARGs these days is kind
of redundant and over-used, but many ARG players seem to have come to
expect it, and aren't sure it's "really an ARG" if there isn't a word
puzzle to figure out in the first week.

I guess what I'm really saying is - can you blame the developers? I think
they're just playing to their audience.

Wendy Despain
quantumcontent.com



> Alongside Mark's query, I'd love to learn about any books which fit

> under the "antecedent to ARG" header.

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> From: arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org [mailto:arg_discuss-bounces at igda.org]

> On Behalf Of Mark Heggen

> Sent: Thursday, August 02, 2007 4:20 PM

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> While it is certainly valid to ask for suggestions on good puzzle books,

> I

> hope this is more of a side question than anything related to developing

> ARGs. Do you really think that what ARGs really need right now are more

> recycled puzzles tacked over the top of a narrative? Morbus, I'm not

> trying

> to give you a hard time or make assumptions about what you (or anyone

> else)

> is going to do with books of puzzles, but it scares me to think of more

> Mensa-style puzzles getting attached to ARGs. That territory seems so

> amazingly tired.

>

> _MH

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> On 8/2/07, D B Wall <dbwall at mac.com> wrote:

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>> Mensa publishes flash card puzzles.

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> http://www.amazon.com/Big-Book-Mind-Bending-Puzzles-Mensa/dp/1402732554/

> ref=sr_1_14/105-0997926-0594800?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1186085300&sr=8-14

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>> On Thursday, August 02, 2007, at 07:23AM, "Morbus Iff"

> <morbus at disobey.com>

>> wrote:

>> >

>> >Anyone have any suggestions on useful puzzle books to pick up? Most

> of

>> >the ones I've fiddled with in the past were physical/manipulative

>> >puzzles, and not something you'd find, say, on a PXC card or a

> website.

>> >

>> >--

>> >Morbus Iff ( earth? shxt and scrambled eggs. earth? )

>> >Technical: http://www.oreillynet.com/pub/au/779

>> >Culture: http://www.disobey.com/ and http://www.gamegrene.com/

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